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Apr 6 2007, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE It's possible that this armor belongs to Hogwarts and is the sign of unity between Gryffindor( the dragon-Pheonix creature) and Slytherin(the snake). If it was supposed to be Gryffindor wouldn't it have a lion? |
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Apr 6 2007, 09:39 PM
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Huge HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: News Posters Posts: 1,231 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Australia Member No.: 4,800 |
I went on to google to try and find a larger picture of the (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) UK Deathly Hallows Cover, but all I can find are small pictures. Any chance someone could give me the link to a large pic?
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Apr 7 2007, 05:57 AM
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QUOTE(crmhpfan @ Apr 6 2007, 09:39 PM) [snapback]124738[/snapback] I went on to google to try and find a larger picture of the (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) UK Deathly Hallows Cover, but all I can find are small pictures. Any chance someone could give me the link to a large pic? Yes, there is one on this thread (you have to click on the link to make it larger) here. And, of course, in HPP photogalleries here (again, click on the picture, to make it larger). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Apr 9 2007, 11:14 AM
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The largest image I've found is here: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/gallery/picture/129927 (click to expand)...
And unfortunately for my theories... the scar is clearly visible on this image. Oh well... Oh... and here's and interesting thing about the adult UK cover: Anyone else notice that the locket - A) is Gold (Not Slytherin's Silver) and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) if you look closely... could have started with the initial's GG... And been altered later... Not likely but interesting... This post has been edited by Perseus_Evans: Apr 9 2007, 12:20 PM |
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Apr 9 2007, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(Perseus_Evans @ Apr 9 2007, 11:14 AM) [snapback]124881[/snapback] The largest image I've found is here: http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/gallery/picture/129927 (click to expand)... And unfortunately for my theories... the scar is clearly visible on this image. Oh well... Oh... and here's and interesting thing about the adult UK cover: Anyone else notice that the locket - A) is Gold (Not Slytherin's Silver) and (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) if you look closely... could have started with the initial's GG... And been altered later... Not likely but interesting... Thanks Perseus, who ever got a hold of that did a great job blowing it up to be so clear. And I agree, the scar is there, dang, I'm really losing!!! LOL Also, good catch on the gold for the locket. Though it makes me wonder if it isn't a reflection from the surroundings. I tried to see what the initials were, but I couldn't make them out. |
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Apr 9 2007, 05:02 PM
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Well, I'm pretty sure the locket at Number 12 was described as a "heavy gold locket no one could open..."
But as for the initials... I can't figure out how to embed the image I made... Basically, if you look at the "S" on the locket, and ignore the double line of Emeralds, then you're left with only the top and bottom parts of the letter... The top part looks like a "G" leaning about 30 degrees and the bottom part looks like an inverted version of the same letter. Probably insignificant... but you never know. This post has been edited by Perseus_Evans: Apr 9 2007, 05:10 PM |
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Apr 9 2007, 10:20 PM
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Okay, I've got that pic now and I've placed it here...
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Apr 10 2007, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(the_prisoner_of_azkaban @ Apr 6 2007, 08:44 PM) [snapback]124708[/snapback] If it was supposed to be Gryffindor wouldn't it have a lion? UK Kid's Version The helmet has a dragon, not a lion, not a phoenix, not a snake - Gryffindor's symbol is a lion, Hufflepuff's a badger, Ravenclaw's a raven, and Slytherin's a snake. As such, whose armor would have been symbolized by the dragon? We know that the dragons must be very important in the book because, except for brief stints in books 1 and 4, dragons are constantly mentioned. DD has taken great care in ensuring that Hagrid help the students learn to care for magical creatures, Hagrid had a pet dragon sent to Romania, Charlie (Ron's brother) takes care of dragons. The question is if they'll play on the side of good or evil as, in mythology, dragons are typically seen as large winged serpents. Also, on the breastplate of the armor is a large serpent - perhaps this is Slytherin's armor. The rubies in the helmet indicate that it might be Gryffindor's. BTW, to the person who suggested it would be Ravenclaw's because it looks Medieval - all of the founders lived at the same time, so it could be anyone's armor. The sword is definitely in Dobby's hand - we know that the house elves will be very important characters in the last book. Hermione's group will probably come in very handy. Now, the fact that Dobby is behind Harry (if we assume it's Dobby) and holding a sword could make us question if Dobby will stab Harry in the back. (Is that Gryffindor's sword or could it be another sword altogether?) The petronus stag will probably be important - the dementors are returing after all. The serpent (perhaps Nagini) lies in a crystal ball - is this drawing us back to the prophecy? Trelawney will probably be killed in the seventh book so that Voldemort can finally get his hands on the entire prophecy. Hallows signifying "hallowed ground" typically associated with cemetaries wouldn't be a far stretch for this last book - it is, after all, mentioned frequently in book six that Voldemort has the ability to control and reanimate (though not restore) the dead in the form of the inferi. Using Hogwarts as a backgroun wouldn't be surprising in the UK kids version if he is able to restore DD to animation (though not life). The name of the book itself - Deathly Hallows - brings my mind to the cemetary idea with the inferi - especially given how much they were mentioned in the last book. US Version Voldemort's serpetine eyes are concentrated on Harry though his hands are outstretched. His one hand does, as another post indicates, look like he is trying to push something away or ward something off. However, it also looks like he is reaching out. Harry is wearing the locket and is reaching out towards something - what that something is, I don't know - perhaps the hand of Sirius as the curtains are important. Perhaps Voldemort is trying to ward off the dead. The background is also important, of course, and the circle doesn't look like stonehenge but rather a temple of some kind. It lies in ruin, perhaps from a battle, perhaps not. My guess - both Voldemort and Harry are going to die - Harry embraces death because he is reunited with his parents, Sirius and DD, Voldemort fears it - he has a lot of dead likely to want some form of revenge. This post has been edited by Witherwings: Apr 13 2007, 09:33 PM |
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Apr 10 2007, 08:47 PM
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Actually, if that snake is indeed Nagini then it is possible that Harry defeats the snake and sort of traps it. I think that we can assume that all Horcruxes do different things every time they get destroyed, depending on the object.
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Apr 10 2007, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE The sword is definitely in Dobby's hand - we know that the house elves will be very important characters in the last book. Hermione's group will probably come in very handy. Now, the fact that Dobby is behind Harry (if we assume it's Dobby) and holding a sword could make us question if Dobby will stab Harry in the back. (Is that Gryffindor's sword or could it be another sword altogether?) Of course it could also be Kreacher....or even Winky. All we can see is the ears. Oh if you're right about the stabbing Harry in the back I hope it isn't Dobby.QUOTE The serpent (perhaps Nagini) lies in a crystal ball - is this drawing us back to the prophecy? Trelawney will probably be killed in the seventh book so that Voldemort can finally get his hands on the entire prophecy. Trelawney can't remember making the phrophecy can she? Remember she goes into a trance and in book 4 after making her phrophecy she doesnt remember anything. So even if Voldy took her, he wouldn't be able to find out. |
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Apr 11 2007, 08:16 AM
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QUOTE(Hermione@12 @ Apr 10 2007, 08:47 PM) [snapback]124932[/snapback] Actually, if that snake is indeed Nagini then it is possible that Harry defeats the snake and sort of traps it. I think that we can assume that all Horcruxes do different things every time they get destroyed, depending on the object. That would be interesting, but why go through all the trouble. Harry's already killed one basilisk, why try to enclose it like that? I think it's something totally different. |
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Apr 11 2007, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(the_prisoner_of_azkaban @ Apr 11 2007, 12:49 AM) [snapback]124947[/snapback] Of course it could also be Kreacher....or even Winky. All we can see is the ears. Oh if you're right about the stabbing Harry in the back I hope it isn't Dobby. Trelawney can't remember making the phrophecy can she? Remember she goes into a trance and in book 4 after making her phrophecy she doesnt remember anything. So even if Voldy took her, he wouldn't be able to find out. The question isn't whether or not Trelwaney can remember the prophecy. She might not remember it but there might be a way to access the prophecy in her mind that Voldemort knows. Remember, DD put great effort into protecting Sibyll, even when Umbridge fires her. DD refuse to let Trelawney leave the castle - and I think this is for her own protection. He gave her the job at Hogwarts also to protect her. However, DD had to worry more about protecting Draco and Harry and dies protecting the kids and now gives Voldemort direct access to Trelawney. DD is dead - he knew the prophecy. Snape only heard part of the prophecy. Harry heard it, but he's not going to tell Voldemort the prophecy. The prophecy broke in the Ministry. The only one left for Voldemort to get the prophecy from is Sibyll herself. BOOM - BIG target for Voldemort. I think that crystal ball brings us back to the prophecy and Trelawney. |
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Apr 12 2007, 03:52 AM
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QUOTE(Witherwings @ Apr 12 2007, 05:41 AM) [snapback]124957[/snapback] The question isn't whether or not Trelwaney can remember the prophecy. She might not remember it but there might be a way to access the prophecy in her mind that Voldemort knows. Remember, DD put great effort into protecting Sibyll, even when Umbridge fires her. DD refuse to let Trelawney leave the castle - and I think this is for her own protection. He gave her the job at Hogwarts also to protect her. However, DD had to worry more about protecting Draco and Harry and dies protecting the kids and now gives Voldemort direct access to Trelawney. DD is dead - he knew the prophecy. Snape only heard part of the prophecy. Harry heard it, but he's not going to tell Voldemort the prophecy. The prophecy broke in the Ministry. The only one left for Voldemort to get the prophecy from is Sibyll herself. BOOM - BIG target for Voldemort. I think that crystal ball brings us back to the prophecy and Trelawney. My thoughts exactly! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Apr 12 2007, 06:54 PM
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Then what does that have to do with Nagini? Is it possible that the prophecy wasn't really about Harry after all? That would come as a big shocker if Nagini was born at the end of July! Although, I think this is crazy and am ashamed that it was my idea! LOL!
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Apr 12 2007, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(Hermione@12 @ Apr 12 2007, 08:54 PM) [snapback]125005[/snapback] Then what does that have to do with Nagini? Is it possible that the prophecy wasn't really about Harry after all? That would come as a big shocker if Nagini was born at the end of July! Although, I think this is crazy and am ashamed that it was my idea! LOL! The snake in the ball might not be Nagini at all, but instead just a representation of Slytherin or Voldemort. Plus, we know that the prophecy is about Harry - Rowling has repeatedly said it's Harry and Voldemort. This post has been edited by Witherwings: Apr 13 2007, 09:31 PM |
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Apr 13 2007, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(Perseus_Evans @ Apr 9 2007, 05:02 PM) [snapback]124894[/snapback] Well, I'm pretty sure the locket at Number 12 was described as a "heavy gold locket no one could open..." QUOTE Anyone else notice that the locket - OOTP, pg. 166, US Version:A) is Gold (Not Slytherin's Silver) "a heavy locket that none of them could open" HBP, pg. 207, US Version: "shaking a heavy golden locket at him" HBP, pg. 437, US Version: "There upon the smooth crimson velvet lay a heavy golden locket." Slytherin's locket was gold. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE She might not remember it but there might be a way to access the prophecy in her mind that Voldemort knows. QUOTE The only one left for Voldemort to get the prophecy from is Sibyll herself. BOOM - BIG target for Voldemort. I agree and I disagree. V can get the prophecy from Harry, all he would have to do is perform Legilimency on him. Perhaps this is all that would be needed on Trelawney as well? |
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Apr 13 2007, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE Slytherin's locket was gold. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Are you sure? ROFLMRO!!!QUOTE The only one left for Voldemort to get the prophecy from is Sibyll herself. BOOM - BIG target for Voldemort. QUOTE I agree and I disagree. V can get the prophecy from Harry, all he would have to do is perform Legilimency on him. Perhaps this is all that would be needed on Trelawney as well? I agree and disagree with you. :~) I was just reading the chapter in HBP where Snape killed Dumbledore, and how, when Harry was trying to stop Snape with curse after curse, Snape said to him 'Blocked again, and again, and again until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed, Potter!' I don't believe Voldemort will be able to penetrate Harry's mind, I really believe after all he went through that Legilimency will come to Harry very quickly, as well as non-verbal spells, but I agree that Trelawney is fair game for Voldemort. Well if Voldemort knows that she is the one who heard the prophecy. I can't remember if he knows or not. Ok, so you've won one bet, so let's make it double or nothing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laughing.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Apr 13 2007, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(baty4potter @ Apr 13 2007, 07:56 PM) [snapback]125058[/snapback] Are you sure? ROFLMRO!!! I agree and disagree with you. :~) I was just reading the chapter in HBP where Snape killed Dumbledore, and how, when Harry was trying to stop Snape with curse after curse, Snape said to him 'Blocked again, and again, and again until you learn to keep your mouth shut and your mind closed, Potter!' I don't believe Voldemort will be able to penetrate Harry's mind, I really believe after all he went through that Legilimency will come to Harry very quickly, as well as non-verbal spells, but I agree that Trelawney is fair game for Voldemort. Well if Voldemort knows that she is the one who heard the prophecy. I can't remember if he knows or not. Ok, so you've won one bet, so let's make it double or nothing! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laughing.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I agree that Harry will learn to sheild his mind and to use non-verbal spells - and I think that Snape was still in his teaching moments. To be honest, I think DD and Snape recognized that the only way to get Harry to seek out Voldemort and kill him was DD's death. I'm not saying they planned the exact moment, but after Snape swore the Unbreakable Vow, DD knew that he would die at Snape's hand eventually. BTW, Trelwaney didn't hear the prophecy, she gave the prophecy. Voldemort knows it was Trelawney because Snape told him about the prophecy. Why else would DD have been protecting her all along? |
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Apr 13 2007, 09:25 PM
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I've just magnified the locket around Harry's neck, but unfortunately I'm unable to do a 'copy and paste' of it on here. However it looks very much like the right side of a man's face and the man appears to be wearing some sort of head gear. Strange that there are so many 'faces' on this cover. Maybe the artist decided to have a bit of fun with us.
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Apr 14 2007, 07:50 AM
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QUOTE(Bunnyc @ Apr 13 2007, 09:25 PM) [snapback]125073[/snapback] I've just magnified the locket around Harry's neck, but unfortunately I'm unable to do a 'copy and paste' of it on here. However it looks very much like the right side of a man's face and the man appears to be wearing some sort of head gear. Strange that there are so many 'faces' on this cover. Maybe the artist decided to have a bit of fun with us. Bunny, if you have a photobucket account you can place it there then put it on here. I'd love to see it. :~) |
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