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post Sep 28 2005, 01:51 AM
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What a lot of people are overlooking is that in the note it says that R.A.B will destroy the horcrux before he dies so in the next book he will only have to destroy the cup, Nagini, Somehting of Ravenclaw's (I really don't think it is anything of Gryffindor's) and Voldemort himself. So it's only the three inatimate objects that will be hard to find. Voldemort will probably come looking for Harry once he finds out that Harry has made him mortal again.
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post Oct 2 2005, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(Horncheese @ Sep 28 2005, 08:51 AM)
What a lot of people are overlooking is that in the note it says that R.A.B will destroy the horcrux before he dies so in the next book he will only have to destroy the cup, Nagini, Somehting of Ravenclaw's (I really don't think it is anything of Gryffindor's) and Voldemort himself. So it's only the three inatimate objects that will be hard to find. Voldemort will probably come looking for Harry once he finds out that Harry has made him mortal again.
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First post... So sorry if this is absolutely rubbish.

But would 1/7 of Voldemort soul not been destroyed when he failed to kill Harry?
Basically- If Voldemort failed to kill Harry and it rebounded to kill him hence stripping him of 1/7th of his protection. Therefore---- We have only 6/7 of his soul to find???

Or is that nonsense?

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post Dec 16 2005, 08:54 AM
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I noticed something that could mean that the goblet/cup Mungdungus has stolen from Gp12 when Harry,Hermione and Ron meets him in Hogsmeade isn't the same that that old lady has, who Voldemort kills.
The first goblet is made of silver and has the Black family crest on it.
The old ladys goblet is of gold and has the Huffelpuff's badger on it.
Wich should mean that one horcrux is missing, since Mundungus or Aberforth doesn't have it.

Althought I can't remember how the Black's crest was discribed. Does someone remember?
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post Dec 17 2005, 01:06 PM
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well, i wonder, if anyone else thinks that there might have been something going on between lily and tm? Because they were there around the same time, so there could possibly have been something there, which is why people say theat harry and tm look alot alike, and /or why harry got some of tm's powers when he defeated him the first time and why killing lily could have been such a athing that oculd have caused harry to become another horcrux...hmm, i wonder....

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QUOTE(flawless @ Oct 2 2005, 01:45 PM)
First post... So sorry if this is absolutely rubbish.

But would 1/7 of Voldemort soul not been destroyed when he failed to kill Harry?
Basically- If Voldemort failed to kill Harry and it rebounded to kill him hence stripping him of 1/7th of his protection. Therefore---- We have only 6/7 of his soul to find???

Or is that nonsense?
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no not nonsense.. and i beleive RAB is Amelia Bones, the one lady in the minisrty that went missing, and it is beleived that voldy killed her OPERSONALLY because she was a brilliant witch.. notice that amelia bones' initials could be rab(althou we know not of her first name) and voldy could have killed her personaly cuz heknew she found locket horcrux, and wouldnt give it to him, so therefore she hid it bofore he found her(knowing he would "i will be long gone before..." )and so she has found the lockeyt and destroyed it becasue she was so clever... mwuahaha.
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I believe that Harry is Gryffindor's descendent.




yes i beleive so as well, because in the chamber, the sword of godric came to save him.. and dd said that only a true gryffindor could have pulled that out of a hat

so perhaps harry os godric's great great great grandson or somthing, and also we never hear of james' ancestry.. and also in the second it says that harry could very well be realted to slazaar, wel, i beleive this to be true of godric instead..
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post Dec 18 2005, 02:46 AM
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I wrote this in another thread and was asked to put it here:

Speaking of horcruxes and souls, can't remember whether I shared this theory here before, but I've been thinking that the Dementors would come in very handy here and suck the bits of soul out of the horcruxes or maybe even the last bit inside of Voldemort.....that would make for a very dramtic finale and it would shorten the whole 'search/destroy' mission for Harry as well as free him from the burden of murder.
Often happens in stories that the 'bad guys' turn on the one who has been controlling them.
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post Dec 21 2005, 01:23 AM
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May be. But till now he has never done that, as kill himself, so I just think there is nothing like hat. Ginny must be one. 02:toofunny:
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post Dec 22 2005, 12:06 AM
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post Dec 23 2005, 05:51 PM
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Ok, maybe Harry isn't a Horcrux(not sure if that should be capitalized), but I have another theory that I had since the first time I read HBP. I was thinking that posibly Madam Rosmerta could be RAB. We don't know if her name Rosmerta is her first, second, or surname, but if it's her first name it sorta makes sense. Also, I support this because what if Malfoy was putting the Imperius cruse on her and then he agreed to leave 48a:hogwarts: because of this.
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post Dec 30 2005, 09:12 PM
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I said this on another topic about hrocruxes as well...

Okay, well I dont know if anyone else has thought about this or if it even makes sence but so you know how when Voldemort attempted to kill Harry the curse backfired and hit Voldemort...so then that would have destroyed part of his soul.

While I was rereading the book I was at the part where Harry gets the memory from Slughorn and immediatly goes to DD and DD explains about the horcruxes. He says that when Voldemort tried to kill harry he wanted to make his 6th Horcrux (remember the 7th is in himself). So since it backfired he used Frank Brices death to make Nagini into a horcrux. So that would be mean that before Voldemort tried to kill harry he had the cup, the locket, the diary, the ring, something tht we dont know and his own peice of soul.

When the spell backfired the part of soul inside of him was destroyed, and so he would have to use one of his horcruxes to stay alive. And so that means that now one of the horcruxes doesnt exist because the peice of soul that was in it is now in Voldemort and so Harry has one less horcrux to find.
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QUOTE(MaraudersG1rl @ Dec 31 2005, 04:12 AM)
I said this on another topic about hrocruxes as well...

Okay, well I dont know if anyone else has thought about this or if it even makes sence but so you know how when Voldemort attempted to kill Harry the curse backfired and hit Voldemort...so then that would have destroyed part of his soul.

While I was rereading the book I was at the part where Harry gets the memory from Slughorn and immediatly goes to DD and DD explains about the horcruxes. He says that when Voldemort tried to kill harry he wanted to make his 6th Horcrux (remember the 7th is in himself). So since it backfired he used Frank Brices death to make Nagini into a horcrux. So that would be mean that before Voldemort tried to kill harry he had the cup, the locket, the diary, the ring, something tht we dont know and his own peice of soul.

When the spell backfired the part of soul inside of him was destroyed, and so he would have to use one of his horcruxes to stay alive. And so that means that now one of the horcruxes doesnt exist because the peice of soul that was in it is now in Voldemort and so Harry has one less horcrux to find.
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So you mean that the horcruxes is like lives in a videogame? so when you used all the lives it is gameover?
That is indeed a very interesting thought....


I must say that i don't find the theory about harry as an horcrux very likely, beacuase if harry is an horcrux voldemort most have made him one of either james of lilly's death, right?
and voldemort tries to kill him after their deaths that make no sence to me
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post Mar 20 2006, 03:05 AM
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does anyone know where the real horcrux that rab found is? Is it in Sirius's House - today Harry's house - or somewhere else?
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i know it sounds silly, but if the goblet of fire is a horcrux? 61:hedwig:
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all i know is that the seventh book will be pretttttttttty intresting, i dont think that harry is a horcruxe but i think that it maybe something that voldemort took from godrics hollow the night lily and james were killed. by the way i also think that godrics hollow is a place were only decendents of godric griffindor can stay,... just my little theory
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post Apr 13 2006, 04:45 PM
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i thought long and hard about this, what if the dark mark/death eaters are a horocrux? all the death eaters will have to die as moody once said "noone stops being a deatheater". do you not think if snape really changed sides, dumbledore could have got rid of the dark mark if it was just a tatoo? also as voldie got stronger, so did his horocrux/mark... 30:quiet:
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i highly doubt that voldemort would make his followers his horcrux. i have reaons too

1)a spell has to be used to make a horcrux, so therefore his followers would have to know about V's horcruxs, and voldemort want it to be his secret

2)voldemort has never been close to a person, so i doubt he would entrust someone to keep a part of trheir soul in his body, dd said the only thing he has ever trusted was nagini, because he had somewhat good control over her.

OH and there is no way V could have taken a horcrux from godrics hollow because he DIED that night.

And, the goblet of fire is not a horcrux, how would voldemort, the darkest wizard who was on the top of the ministry's list at the time when voldemort was making his horcruxes able to go into the ministry of magic and place a piece of his soul in the cup without enchanting it and, not to mention, placing his soul in an object he could most likely not reach again.

And, i still think that there were seven horcruxes left after voldewmort was killed by harry, because i highly doubt dd would overlook the fact of V dying and losing his horcrux, let alone JKR

And, no i dont think snape could have his dark mark removed, even by a wizard like dd. Voldemort was an extremely powerful wizard and he had great dark spells that i doubt dd would be able to tamper with without hurting or killing the person he is trying to help.

oh...and for places where the horcruxes are hidden, i think the locket is in the black's house, with mundungus, or with kreacher; the snake with voldemort ; something from ravenclaw or gryffindor, perhaps in the school in an undetected or hidden room only ever found by voldemort(maybe even the room of requirements) and i have no idea where the cup is. Maybe Regelus A. Black has already found it.

And...oh yes, R.A.B. is regelus a black, serius's relative that was V's follower previous to his death.
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i highly doubt that voldemort would make his followers his horcrux. i have reaons too

1)a spell has to be used to make a horcrux, so therefore his followers would have to know about V's horcruxs, and voldemort want it to be his secret

2)voldemort has never been close to a person, so i doubt he would entrust someone to keep a part of trheir soul in his body, dd said the only thing he has ever trusted was nagini, because he had somewhat good control over her.

OH and there is no way V could have taken a horcrux from godrics hollow because he DIED that night.

And, the goblet of fire is not a horcrux, how would voldemort, the darkest wizard who was on the top of the ministry's list at the time when voldemort was making his horcruxes able to go into the ministry of magic and place a piece of his soul in the cup without enchanting it and, not to mention, placing his soul in an object he could most likely not reach again.

And, i still think that there were seven horcruxes left after voldewmort was killed by harry, because i highly doubt dd would overlook the fact of V dying and losing his horcrux, let alone JKR

And, no i dont think snape could have his dark mark removed, even by a wizard like dd. Voldemort was an extremely powerful wizard and he had great dark spells that i doubt dd would be able to tamper with without hurting or killing the person he is trying to help.

oh...and for places where the horcruxes are hidden, i think the locket is in the black's house, with mundungus, or with kreacher; the snake with voldemort ; something from ravenclaw or gryffindor, perhaps in the school in an undetected or hidden room only ever found by voldemort(maybe even the room of requirements) and i have no idea where the locket is. Maybe Regelus A. Black has already found it.

And...oh yes, R.A.B. is regelus a black, serius's relative that was V's follower previous to his death.


do you think RAB knew he was going to die that night he drank the potion...i think dd knew he was going to die that night...i think he knew because why would he stun harry? why didnt he fight? he knew he was giving up his life..and i think dd told snape to killhim when he said please...
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post Jul 27 2006, 09:01 PM
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Either you're right, Potterhead or DD had some other plan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fragend005.gif) Possibly, Snape killed DD because V was possesing Snape , so he wouldn't hesitate and DD stunned Harry because he didn't want Harry to be "a hero" and save DD because DD knew that Harry needed himself to destroy V?
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Personally I don't think Voldemort could possess Snape. I think Snape is powerful enough to be able to prevent that. As for Dumbledore dying because Harry needs to deal with Voldemort himself? Dumbledore didn't need to do that; he's always for the most part let Harry handle things anyway, so all he had to do is stay out of the way. Now it could have been a motivation for Harry to become stronger and become the powerful wizard he is, but I still think Voldemort with all his knowledge will be more powerful then Harry at this point in time.

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
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