who is R.A.B??, theories for R.A.B. Options

[whyzdom]

Don't complicate it too much. Remember that it is a part of a kids book series, although I dare say that there are more adults (looks accusingly at self in mirror) that are interested in reading this than kids.


DD couldn't have known the locket was missing. He wouldn't have put himself at risk to being weakened so bad. Unless it was part of the DD/Snape conspiracy.

Hmm.. more to think about....

[My Pensieve]

Don't complicate it too much. Remember that it is a part of a kids book series, although I dare say that there are more adults (looks accusingly at self in mirror) that are interested in reading this than kids.
DD couldn't have known the locket was missing. He wouldn't have put himself at risk to being weakened so bad. Unless it was part of the DD/Snape conspiracy.

Hmm.. more to think about....

I going to say that Dumbledore knew what was going to happen. It has been mentioned before but I will say it again. Dumbledore's death could be Harry's salvation.

[Perseus_Evans]

I know what you mean MP...

I've wondered whether Harry and DD might be related, and DD's death might have restored the same "old magic" protection for Harry that Voldemort overcame by using his blood in GoF. Since technically the reason DD died was because he protected Harry with the Freezing charm...

But that's a whole other subject...

[My Pensieve]

I know what you mean MP...

I've wondered whether Harry and DD might be related, and DD's death might have restored the same "old magic" protection for Harry that Voldemort overcame by using his blood in GoF. Since technically the reason DD died was because he protected Harry with the Freezing charm...

But that's a whole other subject...

That has been my thought, though I think JK has said something to the contrary that Harry doesn't have any other living relatives. Though I think she was referring to Lily's side of the family. I'd like to know more about James and his side.

[Zola231]

Lets Try an see it from another angle...

A majority of people here this it is Reguls Black, someone else, or maybe three different people. How do we know this is not a group, clan, organisation ect.
For example when the half-blood prince came out, alot of people wondered who is a half blood? But Serverus Snape made that his little nickname. "Prince" coming from his mother.

I have been scanning through the mugglenet, Encyclopedia. And i wondered ifi went though everything beggining with: R, A and B.

When looking through the R section, there was somebody called Radulf a wizard blacksmith mentioned in Goodwin Kneen's letter; Radulf played Quidditch. See how do we know it is not this person. This person seems far fetched.

But then i saw Ragnok, the goblin who worked at gringotts. Bill tried to persuade Ragnok to support Dumbledore. This was the same goblin who wrote the book Little people, Big blans.. Then he was an activist against Brotherhood of gobilns, using B.O.G. If Ragnok can use B.O.G maybe he can use R.A.B.

Or it could be three spells, said in that order and something happens. For example: Reducto, Accio, Babbling Curse when said in that order something happens.

The R could stand for Riddle or a small charecter that we don't know alot about like Agnes a witch in the long-term residents' ward in St. Mungo's Hospital; her head was entirely covered in fur.

When looking at the death eaters it could be: Alecto, Amycus, Aubrey ect.

Or what about the orphans Tom Riddle took to the cave and when they left they were never the same again.
This person is called Amy Benson. The other orpahn was called Bishop.

Now moving on to the Black family:

1. Black Lestrange, Bellatrix
2. Black, Alphard
3. Black, Andromeda
4. Black, Elladora
5. Black, Mrs
6. Black, Phineas Nigellus
7. Black, Regulus
8. Black, Sirius

I know this might seem like mumbo jumbo. But JKR has done alot of twists and turns.

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[Perseus_Evans]

Personally I think it stands for:

Rabbits Are Bad!

Ravishingly Amazing Beauty!

Ripping Apart Books!

Rivers Always Bend!

Rich Alaskan Beer!

Ripe Apple Blossom!

But in Harry Potter... It's Regulus Alphard Black.

We saw the locket at Grimmauld Place...

The last initial translates to black in every language...

We had the little moment where Mundungus hands the locket to Aberforth...

I'm the first person to call for bizarre twists... I will always dig deep into every little thing, but this one is so obvious that I can't believe I'm still posting in this long-since-proven topic...

If you can accept that as fact, then you can start thinking about the REAL question... Did DD know there would be no Horcrux in the cave??? And the answer? Yes... he knew. Now let an interesting discussion begin...

[Zola231]

That could of been Aberoth with Harry using the polyjuice potion. Maybe he sacrificed himself to help DD live.?

[1HPgirl]

If you can accept that as fact, then you can start thinking about the REAL question... Did DD know there would be no Horcrux in the cave??? And the answer? Yes... he knew. Now let an interesting discussion begin...

Personally, I think that R.A.B. is in fact, Regulas Black but...I could easily be wrong. I think that Regulas is really alive. I think that Dumbledore knew the Horcrux is gone. I think Snape made and Unbreakable Vow to DD saying he would protect Harry, but then he also made one to Narssica. I think when he told DD about his promise to Narssica, DD realized that the Vow needed to be followed through with and it would be better for him to die than Harry. But Snape knew that by killing DD, he would be destroying his Vow to protect Harry to DD so he just used occulmency until DD was dead. And now, he will join forces with the Death eaters.

I don't care what people say, I refuse to believe that Snape is not pure EVIL. He acted like that before he was a Death Eater. Hated Mudbloods, and hated James Potter. So he is BAD! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/irked.gif)

[Perseus_Evans]

In all fairness, we still don't really know whether James was a good guy at Hogwarts. He may well have been more like Malfoy than we'd care to admit. He didn't come off all that well in Snape's worst memory... Even Lily didn't like him at that point. And don't forget that DD wanted Harry to be raised with the Dursleys to avoid the possibility of him becoming a "pampered prince...". I always felt that there was in implied "like your father was..." at the end of that statement, but that could just be me.

So I can't agree that Snape was bad simply because he didn't like James... That would make Lily bad too, wouldn't it?

I think one of the central themes in the story are people's ability to overcome their ways and their upbringing and their potential to still change themselves... "It is our actions that define who we are..."

Both Snape and James appeared to have qualities that were less than admirable. If James overcame his vanity, perhaps Snape overcame his self-loathing...

I know I'm not going to change your mind 1HPgirl, but I hope to introduce the possibility that Snape's attitude toward Harry has been part of his cover... I have a complex theory on the boards relating to it... http://www.harrypotterspage.com/forums/ind...?showtopic=2709 You'll see I agree with the Unbreakable Vow idea... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Some of the pieces don't fit anymore, but you'll get the idea...

I will believe Snape is good until the very end, because I also have a feeling the Unbreakable Vow extends beyond death. It really seems like a type of spell used by wizards who are about to die, like "promise you'll take care of Harry, if we die" said James to Dumbledore...

But now I'm completely off topic again...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/soapbox.gif) R.A.B = Regulus Black!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/soapbox.gif)

[~~~Hermione~~~]

Regulass Black

it's gotta be in my opinion, me and my firend talked for hours about it and thats our conclusion

[1HPgirl]

Well I am not saying that hating James made him bad! Im saying that hating james with the passion that Snape did would give him the undenying want for revenge against him. This is why he passed information to Lord Voldemort about the prophecy, hence killing the Potter parents. But, I must agree that we don't know enough about James Potter as a Hogwarts student to know whether or not he was just a big bully (personally, thats how I want the 7th book to begin...a scene from way back when James was in school giving us a more accurate reading of him)....But this leads us to an important question as well: How come Lily went from loathing james to marrying him?
Now I am really a firm believer that Harry will be good forever and always but...could it be, that like Merope with Tom Riddle Senior, James put Lily on a love potion making Harry even more alike with Voldemort then we already know?

[Perseus_Evans]

Hmmm... According to Dumbledore, Snape had no idea that Voldemort would interpret the prophecy the way he did... He also said it was the greatest regret of Snape's life.

Although I suppose if you believe Snape is pure evil, I guess you believe that Dumbledore was fooling himself to believe that...

As far as starting Book 7 with a flashback, I'm going to say there's pretty much no chance of that... We've seen nearly the entire story from Harry's point of view, and the other parts (Spinner's End, The Other Minister) have always been in the present... but I guess you never know.

Hopefully James realized the error of his ways after a certain point. I find the parallels between him and Malfoy interesting... both rich purebloods... Maybe that means Malfoy will turn himself around in the 7th book...

I really hope that there wasn't a love potion involved though...

[1HPgirl]

Well I am just saying, many people are starting to believe that Harry is going to turn out to destroy Voldemort and take his place as Dark Lord. I don't believe it, but they do have some of the same likeness apart from the curse. It could happen....but it better not !

[Hermione@13]

Ok, I still believe Malfoy is R.A.B. Malfoy had Rosmerta under the Imperius Curse and she wrote it. This explains why it keeps saying "I". Also, Malfoy probably knew he would have to go to V any day now, so he was coward enough to write the bit about dying.

[riddlemethis326]

But Malfoy didn't know about the Horcrux. And how would Rosemerta have gotten the note to the locket then were is the other one? And it said they would be dead long before the Dark Lord read it... neither Malfoy or Rosemerta are dead. The only people who know about the Horcruxes are (were) Dumbledore, Harry, and Voldemort himself...

[1HPgirl]

No, they are obviously not the only 3 people who knew. R.A.B. knew. The Malfoy theory is possible. But I still believe R.A.B. = Regulas Black

[Zola231]

Or what about this:

Another Black family member that could fit the identity of R.A.B. is that of Nymphadora Tonks's mother Andromeda. Andromeda Tonks's maiden name is Black, and if Andromeda is in fact her middle name, then it is possible that R.A.B. stands for R. Andromeda Black.

[Hermione@13]

That is possible, but I'm still sticking with my R.A.B is Malfoy theory because it seems very unlikely and that sounds like Jo to me! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Instead of it being a Black, which seems the most likely, it could still be someone that was in a family that supported the Dark Arts. I have one question, though:how would Andromeda have known she would be long dead?

[Eskymak]

But it aso can be someone, who has not been mentioned in the story yet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[riddlemethis326]

No, they are obviously not the only 3 people who knew. R.A.B. knew

Aha! Right, sorry, not thinking very clearly. I think it could be Andromeda, but I have this gut feeling that it is Regulus. Jo often hints about upcoming things in previous books (ie. the heavy locket in book five) and it was Moody or Sirius wasn't it? that said Regulus was killed by Voldemort (or ordered to be killed). But after all this complicated mess, I uh, stick with my theory.