Differences in books to movie Options

[whitewolf]

LOL, I could go along with that! Pass the pitcher of beer please!

Consider it passed! I'll also bring the chip and dip!
Happy Birthday Danniel!
Don't you think he in a couple of years, would make the perfect Doctor Who?

This post has been edited by whitewolf: Jul 23 2009, 08:34 AM

[baty4potter]

Consider it passed! I'll also bring the chip and dip!
Happy Birthday Danniel!
Don't you think he in a couple of years, would make the perfect Doctor Who?

Much better then the blankidyblank they have replacing Tennant. Dressed in Tweed... Roles eyes!!! Looks like Pee-Wee Herman on a grouse shoot.

The Beer was great and so was the dip! Thanks!! :~)

[whitewolf]

Much better then the blankidyblank they have replacing Tennant. Dressed in Tweed... Roles eyes!!! Looks like Pee-Wee Herman on a grouse shoot.

The Beer was great and so was the dip! Thanks!! :~)

I haven't seen the new one yet! All I can get on him is that he is young. David was the perfect blend of fun and angry. I wished that they had written him the Barty confession from the book in GOF. He would have nailed it. I see that edginess in Dan. That seriousness with fun. I hope they consider it. I could be his first grown up role, and I think a perfect second act on what I see as a long career.

Soooo, what's for desert? LOL

[baty4potter]

I haven't seen the new one yet! All I can get on him is that he is young. David was the perfect blend of fun and angry. I wished that they had written him the Barty confession from the book in GOF. He would have nailed it. I see that edginess in Dan. That seriousness with fun. I hope they consider it. I could be his first grown up role, and I think a perfect second act on what I see as a long career.

Soooo, what's for desert? LOL

Desert, well let's see.... Hmmm if you like Carrot Cake I know a place that makes the best in the world. For a whole cake it's $90. lol

[Kane]

I really loved this movie, found it the best so far. I thought it actually sticked to the plotlines well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[whitewolf]

" Desert, well let's see.... Hmmm if you like Carrot Cake I know a place that makes the best in the world. For a whole cake it's $90. lol"
To Baty: Pecan Pie and Carrot Cake are my favorites. Anti up girl let's go! (Big Grin)



"I really loved this movie, found it the best so far. I thought it actually sticked to the plotlines well."
To Kane: I'm glad you loved the movie, but I have to wonder if you read the book. All the movies have to a certain extent followed the plotlines, but the presentation can change the context and nature of the story. They have left out little parts that later mean a lot; they have put words in to different characters mouths and change the meaning and effect of those words; they have reduced key characters in to bit players or mere window dressing.
(Sorry, I'm ranting.) Anyway, I could find the flim forgivable, with the exception of the "Dumberdore death scene". The way they played it changed and challenged everything I know and love about Harry. I will not go into detail for the sake of those who have not seen or read this part, but to not at least do to Harry what was done in the book you change the impact that the scene will have on other parts of the story that no matter how you play it are essential to the finish. In fact, I can think of at least two things in that scene that change the logic of the wand lore. (If you re-read it you will know what I mean.) Enough said: Pass the cake!

[baty4potter]

" Desert, well let's see.... Hmmm if you like Carrot Cake I know a place that makes the best in the world. For a whole cake it's $90. lol"
To Baty: Pecan Pie and Carrot Cake are my favorites. Anti up girl let's go! (Big Grin)



"I really loved this movie, found it the best so far. I thought it actually sticked to the plotlines well."
To Kane: I'm glad you loved the movie, but I have to wonder if you read the book. All the movies have to a certain extent followed the plotlines, but the presentation can change the context and nature of the story. They have left out little parts that later mean a lot; they have put words in to different characters mouths and change the meaning and effect of those words; they have reduced key characters in to bit players or mere window dressing.
(Sorry, I'm ranting.) Anyway, I could find the flim forgivable, with the exception of the "Dumberdore death scene". The way they played it changed and challenged everything I know and love about Harry. I will not go into detail for the sake of those who have not seen or read this part, but to not at least do to Harry what was done in the book you change the impact that the scene will have on other parts of the story that no matter how you play it are essential to the finish. In fact, I can think of at least two things in that scene that change the logic of the wand lore. (If you re-read it you will know what I mean.) Enough said: Pass the cake!

I'm passing the cake, and will comment on the above later. {{{grinning}}}

[xc coach]

I rather thought Harry's supposed lack of reaction to the Deatheaters (including Draco) and Snape in the Astronomy tower indicated a certain amount of good ol' human nature: SHOCK. He was shocked at what was happening and powerless to respond.

We would all like to think that in a life-or-death situation that we would immediately respond to save the day. But the truth of the matter is, people have to be well trained to respond quickly (think firefighters and emergency room doctors).

Harry by standing there taking it all in with the "I don't believe it" expression on his face was very real, very believable.

I think that in the following movies he can still experience the angst and horror and "if only I..." that he experienced in the books.

He trusted Dumbledore and was abiding his word to obey. And he trusted Snape (who was trusted by Dumbledore) when Snape requested his silence. I think it will all fit together in the end.

My husband saw the movie. He has never read the books and has only watched the movies while working on something else. In fact, he had his iphone out and was emailing for the first 15 minutes or so of this film! He enjoyed the movie very much and had no problem understanding the plot line. He also gets it that there are more Horcruxes out there for the kids to find.

I personally enjoyed the movie. Twice, so far. It will be interesting to see what they do with Deathly Hallows to make it all make sense.

I also greatly enjoyed the portrayal of Draco. Knowing the end from the beginning, it's easier to judge him more kindly. Snape, too.

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[whitewolf]

I 've been sitting at this computer for about an hour trying not to respond to this in a way that is negative, but I'm fast understanding why my family and friends tell me to never read a book and then go to the movies. I have long accepted that movies are the alternative version of the book on which they are adapted. I myself did not read the HP books until after the OOTP movie, and up until then I thought of them as five separate stories about a boy wizard and his friends. A sort of young Sherlock Holmes with a wand, and Voldermort was his Moriarty. From that perspective all the movies work. Context and continunity mean nothing. A good movie is a good movie, and for the most part this one is just that. But my disconnect comes with it being presented as a continuous story. Other then the characters how does this one help create this into the complex oneous tale that we know as Harry Potter?
As for the death scene, I stand by my assessment of it being in error. Shock is not a good enough response, not for this situatuon. They caused the problem by putting one person on that roof that was not there in the book, that made "shock and dumblestruck" response inplausable. Even, if Harry could trust a weaken Dumbledore to handle Draco, Snape and most other average wizards and witches, there is no way he would have (and especially after the Burrows) just stood there unimpeded and let Bella take the lead. Even the most trained professional can get stumped by shock, but instinct trumps shock evey time. Harry would have instinctually reacted to Bella and Greyback if nothing else.

That said: I just have to accept that these movies are base on the books of Harry Potter and will be played as eight stories based on books, and not eight parts of the story of Harry Potter. Baty, please pass the cake and a very large brandy. (All smiles)

[baty4potter]

I 've been sitting at this computer for about an hour trying not to respond to this in a way that is negative, but I'm fast understanding why my family and friends tell me to never read a book and then go to the movies. I have long accepted that movies are the alternative version of the book on which they are adapted. I myself did not read the HP books until after the OOTP movie, and up until then I thought of them as five separate stories about a boy wizard and his friends. A sort of young Sherlock Holmes with a wand, and Voldermort was his Moriarty. From that perspective all the movies work. Context and continunity mean nothing. A good movie is a good movie, and for the most part this one is just that. But my disconnect comes with it being presented as a continuous story. Other then the characters how does this one help create this into the complex oneous tale that we know as Harry Potter?
As for the death scene, I stand by my assessment of it being in error. Shock is not a good enough response, not for this situatuon. They caused the problem by putting one person on that roof that was not there in the book, that made "shock and dumblestruck" response inplausable. Even, if Harry could trust a weaken Dumbledore to handle Draco, Snape and most other average wizards and witches, there is no way he would have (and especially after the Burrows) just stood there unimpeded and let Bella take the lead. Even the most trained professional can get stumped by shock, but instinct trumps shock evey time. Harry would have instinctually reacted to Bella and Greyback if nothing else.

That said: I just have to accept that these movies are base on the books of Harry Potter and will be played as eight stories based on books, and not eight parts of the story of Harry Potter. Baty, please pass the cake and a very large brandy. (All smiles)

Large piece of cake and a very very LARGE brandy coming up....

I long ago put the books aside when it came to the movies. I was very judgmental and wouldn't have been able to continue seeing the movies, like a very dear friend of mine, if I wouldn't have.

That being said....

I have to say I totally liked the movie, and if I hadn't known what was changed I would have thought it to be the second best. Azkaban was my favorite.


But... In their defense scenes like the burrow being destroyed I want to say that they moved this up to make things flow properly in the last two movies......


NOW.... Of course I was *Not* happy with the way they changed the death scene. Yes it worked if you didn't read the book *except* the Snape putting his finger to his lips and to tell Harry to be quiet. That didn't make sense. It made it look like Snape was giving Harry a clue, which maybe it was to look like that but to me it would have been better for him to put a stunning spell on Harry.

The omission of the Horcurxes, Dobby, Kreacher, AND the omission of why Snape was called the HBP really could have been put in if they would have cut some of the Ron/Lavender scenes. Though for the most part I enjoyed, if they would have cut a five minutes of that out some of these could have unfolded.

I really need to go back and reread the book, but then again I might be more disappointed if I did.

Again, I really enjoyed the movie, and I think most omissions wouldn't have bothered me as much if they would have left the tower scene alone.

[the_prisoner_of_...]

the other thing about Snape "asking" harry to be quiet is HARRY DIDN'T TRUST SNAPE! Gosh that annoys me. Having heard Snape talking to Malfoy after Slughorn's he would never have just listened to Snape *sigh*.

[baty4potter]

the other thing about Snape "asking" harry to be quiet is HARRY DIDN'T TRUST SNAPE! Gosh that annoys me. Having heard Snape talking to Malfoy after Slughorn's he would never have just listened to Snape *sigh*.

EXACTLY!! I found that to be quite cheeky!

[whitewolf]

EXACTLY!! I found that to be quite cheeky!

Halleluah! Somebody gets what I'm saying. Not a bad movie, but lack orignial substances. Hope to see more story and less interpt next movies! I just love you guys!!

[Grubbly-Plank]

the other thing about Snape "asking" harry to be quiet is HARRY DIDN'T TRUST SNAPE! Gosh that annoys me. Having heard Snape talking to Malfoy after Slughorn's he would never have just listened to Snape *sigh*.

I feel the same as the rest of you. I mean if you were Harry would you have stood by & done nothing??!! Don't think so, I know I wouldn't have been able to. The only other bit I couldn't see the point of was the burning of the Burrow, doesn't make any sense to me to just sort of dump that in the middle of things. Other than that it was quite a ride, especially the Quiddich!! Wow.

The other thing is girls I don't like Brandy, but a nice glass of red or a large gin & tonic would be just fine thanks. I'm not that worried about cake though. ROFL

[baty4potter]

I feel the same as the rest of you. I mean if you were Harry would you have stood by & done nothing??!! Don't think so, I know I wouldn't have been able to. The only other bit I couldn't see the point of was the burning of the Burrow, doesn't make any sense to me to just sort of dump that in the middle of things. Other than that it was quite a ride, especially the Quiddich!! Wow.

The other thing is girls I don't like Brandy, but a nice glass of red or a large gin & tonic would be just fine thanks. I'm not that worried about cake though. ROFL

I'm wondering if they put the Burrow burning early so not to have to waste scenes in DH? Just a thought....

One G&T on its way.... Any preference on the Gin? Oh and do you want a piece of Carrot cake? Best in the world....

[Grubbly-Plank]

I'm wondering if they put the Burrow burning early so not to have to waste scenes in DH? Just a thought....

One G&T on its way.... Any preference on the Gin? Oh and do you want a piece of Carrot cake? Best in the world....

Don't know about the Burrow bit at all .....

Oh as far as the gin in concerned, Bombay Sapphire please, slimline Schwepps tonic, ice & a slice of lime, & yes maybe a small piece of cake, if you don't mind!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[baty4potter]

Don't know about the Burrow bit at all .....

Oh as far as the gin in concerned, Bombay Sapphire please, slimline Schwepps tonic, ice & a slice of lime, & yes maybe a small piece of cake, if you don't mind!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Bombay G&T on the way and a LARGE piece of cake.... Gotta go big girl! lol

I'm going to read DH again to see how the Burrow played out. I'm not sure either but......

[whitewolf]

Bombay G&T on the way and a LARGE piece of cake.... Gotta go big girl! lol

I'm going to read DH again to see how the Burrow played out. I'm not sure either but......

I think that the only thing that happened to the Burrows was either after the attack or shortly after the attack the family left the house for a safe house. Remember when Harry Hermione and Ron went to see Lovegood they apperated on the hill above the house and looked down on the deserted place. The scene in the movie was totally made up. Loved the cake and brandy!

[the_prisoner_of_...]

I'm wondering if they put the Burrow burning early so not to have to waste scenes in DH? Just a thought....

I think that the only thing that happened to the Burrows was either after the attack or shortly after the attack the family left the house for a safe house. Remember when Harry Hermione and Ron went to see Lovegood they apperated on the hill above the house and looked down on the deserted place. The scene in the movie was totally made up.

Ok I've just read DH again and after the attack...they stay at the Burrow. It isn't until Ron is caught by the snatchers that they have to leave the Burrow (remember they are still at the Burrow for the ministry to go visit ghoul/ron). And also when they look down at the Burrow in the Lovegood bit Harry says something about Ginny being so close. It's after Ron is caught that they go into hiding at Aunt Muriels. As far as I can remember.

[baty4potter]

Ok I've just read DH again and after the attack...they stay at the Burrow. It isn't until Ron is caught by the snatchers that they have to leave the Burrow (remember they are still at the Burrow for the ministry to go visit ghoul/ron). And also when they look down at the Burrow in the Lovegood bit Harry says something about Ginny being so close. It's after Ron is caught that they go into hiding at Aunt Muriels. As far as I can remember.

I *really* need to go back an reread the last couple of books!! My memory is fading of what happened. :~/