new Nagini thread, I've just thought of something Options

[Ill Will]

I'm thinking that Dumbledoor may be correct about Nagini being a horcrux-- BECAUSE: Remeber back when harry was dreaming in OotP and he could see through Voldemort's eyes? Well, the time when he attacked Arthur Weasley he was actually seeing it through Nagini's eyes. I think DD mentioned something about voldemort possessing the snake or something. I think that would make more sense if a part of Voldemort's soul was inside the snake. Any thoughts? Or am I just beating the horcrux topic to death?

[TheChosenOne]

Nope your right about that. Don't worry it's to early to beat any of theorys yet.

[hpdork]

Too true!!

Anyways, I am POSITIVE (maybe to the point of embarressment) that the horcruxes that Dumbledore told Harry are the actual horcurxes.

[TheChosenOne]

I agree. I hope He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named doesn't use Ginny as bait to get to Harry. I have this feeling that You-Know-Who will take over Hogwarts and a DE will bring Ron to him and he will kill him and while he's doing this he will tap into Harry's mind and make it look like it's Ginny. Harry will go crazy to try to get her back, only to bump into Hermoine and Ginny along the way and they realize it was Ron Voldemort was killing and not Ginny. I don't hope this happens cause I would liek to see Ron and Hermione get together. It makes me wonder though since Ron is born number 6 and six is unlucky will Ginny is born 7 and 7 is lucky. Plus I don't think the only Weasley duaghter would be killed. Harry needs somebody in the end. I like your signature and I didn't realize that you couldn't get Hermione without Ron. Lol. So true.

[Jas_656]

The Dark Lord doesn't need to actual kill someone to make harry dream that he has. Sirius was nowhere near the Ministry when harry had visions of him being hurt.

and whats the point of making harry think it was Ginny. Surely harry would try and rescue ron as well.

[TheChosenOne]

I know that, but I think it would hurt him more if it was Ginny or believed to be her. I was just following in the lines of You-Kow-Who making it look like he was hurting Sirius when no one was there. I should have expanded on that theory more. Harry would still think Harry was there with him battling Death Eaters not realizing Ron was carried away in the shuffle and the fact that Hermoine and Ginny where somewhere else looking for another Horcux like in Hogwarts. Plus it would fit in with the theory of 6 being unlucky and 7 being lucky.

[lady_vamp]

I'm thinking that Dumbledoor may be correct about Nagini being a horcrux-- BECAUSE: Remeber back when harry was dreaming in OotP and he could see through Voldemort's eyes? Well, the time when he attacked Arthur Weasley he was actually seeing it through Nagini's eyes. I think DD mentioned something about voldemort possessing the snake or something. I think that would make more sense if a part of Voldemort's soul was inside the snake. Any thoughts? Or am I just beating the horcrux topic to death?
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No I definatly think that Nagini is a Horcrux. In the fourth novel, voldemort would possess snakes when he did not have a body of his own, but these creatures died after a short time, if L V repeatedly would possess Nagini maybe she should have died by now? Also it fits perfectly into LV's nature. He had a magpie like attraction to things of value to him. And things of value to him would be to do with Hogwarts, his parentage, salazar slytherin & most likely parsletongue. Wouldn't this be reason enough? Also Dumbledore thought that Nagini was one of the last horcruxs and Dumbledore is...well Dumbledore, besides the Snape thing & the cave mess-up how can you not trust his judgement? 55:wizard2:

[xahdum]

Ah i was just about to start a topic on this. Yeah, Harry wouldn't have seen through Nagini's eyes if she wasn't a horcrux, because if Voldemort had possesed her it would have 'shortened her life'. (mentioned in GoF) and this wasn't a fake vision like the sirius one, it actually happened, because voldemort didn't know yet that harry could see things he saw, and couldn't just be feeding harry information 04:P

[Ill Will]

Yeah, Harry wouldn't have seen through Nagini's eyes if she wasn't a horcrux...
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Or possibly, if they weren't BOTH horcruxes.

[xahdum]

Or possibly, if they weren't BOTH horcruxes.
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Wait, that doesn't really make any difference at all..
Plus i'm not a harrycrux(harcrux?) theory supporter, myself.
How would harry being a horcrux affect that?

[Ill Will]

Wait, that doesn't really make any difference at all..
Plus i'm not a harrycrux(harcrux?) theory supporter, myself.
How would harry being a horcrux affect that?
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It does make a difference. it would better explain harry being able to see through nagini's eyes if it was one horcrux to another-- as apposed to one horcrux to one halfway possesed mind that is inexplicably attached to another through a mysterious curse-backfiring-incedent that no one can explain.

Hary being a horcrux would explain his mental conection to Voldemort and subsequent horcruxes.

I'm not exactly pro or con on the 'harry is a horcrux' theory. I'm still trying to work it all out in my head. to me, harry being a horcrux is a likely possibility.

[felix_felicis]

Too true!!

Anyways, I am POSITIVE (maybe to the point of embarressment) that the horcruxes that Dumbledore told Harry are the actual horcurxes.
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i disagree with you i am sure tht dd got the horcruxes correct accept 1 i think harry poteer is on of the horcruxes. i dnt think tht voldemort meant to do this but tht is what i believe. we shall c

[baty4potter]

i disagree with you i am sure tht dd got the horcruxes correct accept 1 i think harry poteer is on of the horcruxes. i dnt think tht voldemort meant to do this but tht is what i believe. we shall c
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PLEASE SPELL ALL YOUR WORDS OUT!!!

[kevin111]

I'm thinking that Dumbledoor may be correct about Nagini being a horcrux-- BECAUSE: Remeber back when harry was dreaming in OotP and he could see through Voldemort's eyes? Well, the time when he attacked Arthur Weasley he was actually seeing it through Nagini's eyes. I think DD mentioned something about voldemort possessing the snake or something. I think that would make more sense if a part of Voldemort's soul was inside the snake. Any thoughts? Or am I just beating the horcrux topic to death?

THis is a very good point!

[genervt]

Wait, that doesn't really make any difference at all..
Plus i'm not a harrycrux(harcrux?) theory supporter, myself.
How would harry being a horcrux affect that?

i deeply agree with that
harry saw through nagini´s eyes, because Voldemort did so when he possesed nagini, that has nothing to do with nagini being a horcrux
why should there be a link between the horcruxes?
the riddle diary horcrux knew nothing about what happend after his creation

but it is odd that Voldemort could posses nagini easily while during the possesion of harry he endured mortal agony

[mischief managed]

well, voldemort could posess nagini because there was no ancient defensive magic like harry had upon him.

Maybe, that is why dd smiled slightly when harry told him about voldemort usng harry's blood to rewturn. Maybe dd smiled, or laughed aty voldemort in him thinking that he could penetrate love with another ancient magic. maybe he was laughing at v's attempt to break through what was, in dd's views, the most powerful type of magic...love

[mischief managed]

well, voldemort could posess nagini because there was no ancient defensive magic like harry had upon him.

Maybe, that is why dd smiled slightly when harry told him about voldemort usng harry's blood to rewturn. Maybe dd smiled, or laughed aty voldemort in him thinking that he could penetrate love with another ancient magic. maybe he was laughing at v's attempt to break through what was, in dd's views, the most powerful type of magic...love

IN fact... i think that the reason voldemort couldnt posess harry without feeling agonizing pain was because harry was felling strong love towards sirius, because he just died.

I think whenever harry loves...voldemort feels pain if he's close enough.

[Hermione@13]

I also think that V was possesing Nagini and Nagini's a Horcrux. Voldemort probably made Nagini a Horcrux because he wanted part of his soul in something that he could relate to and seeing as he's a Parselmouth...

[~~~Hermione~~~]

i'd say your right, i don't remember Voldy havin a direct link to Salazar SLytherin maybe he can speak parsel tounge cause part of him is in Nagini

[1HPgirl]

i'd say your right, i don't remember Voldy havin a direct link to Salazar SLytherin maybe he can speak parsel tounge cause part of him is in Nagini

His Grandfather and uncle and mom were the last living descendents of Salazar Slytherin. That's why they had the locket...Voldemort is related to Slytherin...and he speaks parseltongue because of that...But I do believe that Nagini is a Horcrux because otherwise, like DD said, even being a Parselmouth wouldn't give him THAT much control over her... and I think Harry's scar is an "accidental Horcrux" (yes I am a "Harrycrux" believer) and I think that does directly relate to why Harry sees what Nagini did to Arthur. I mean, we know that Harry saw through Voldemort sometimes, and seeing as Voldemort is just a fragment of a cursed soul and so is Nagini, they are pretty much the same thing in diferent living bodies. So yes, Harry saw through the current Voldemort and through the not yet used piece of Voldemort living inside Nagini. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Either that or I am just over analyzing the situation (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)