Similarities between STAR WARS and Harry Potter, Intresting Options

[You-Know-Poo]

Some of the characters in the Harry Potter series have similar qualities so on, to STAR WARS (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Dumbledore=Yoda/Obi-wan
Harry=Luke
Hermione=Leia,(not Harry's sister)
Ron=Han
Voldermort=Darth Vader/Darth Sidius

Dumbledore died so that Harry would be able to fight Voldermort on his own. Very similar to STAR WARS.
The next three are main characters, but minor characters in a bigger plot
Harry has to go up against Voldermort for a final battle. He's faced Voldermort before (As Luke did Vader) but nobody died.
Hermione is the only girl as is Leia. Sometimes shes a girl nice girl, other times she is rather violent. Ex. when she punched Malfoy (POA)
Ron likes Hermione but thinks that she likes Harry
Voldermort is the evil character in the story line as was Vader/Sidius the whole STAR WARS story is about Vaders life, as is the Harry Potter story. In the flash backs they're about Voldermort when he was younger (Except for Snape's memory)

So with this, Harry has to kill Voldermort. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/soapbox.gif)

[WickedWitchOfThe...]

Technically though, Luke didn't kill Vader. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/upsidedown.gif)

[the_prisoner_of_...]

The character similarities you've pointed out are very common to alot of stories/movies etc.

There's the teacher or the guide.
In HP this is Dumbledore, in Star Wars it's Obi-wan, in LOTR it's Gandalf, Buffy the Vampire Slayer it's giles.

There's the centrel character, and the journey which they take.
Harry, Luke, Buffy, Frodo

There's the smart/confidonce, a bit of a mixture between side-kick and guide.
Hermione, Leia, Aragorn, Willow (In Buffy)

Then there's the side-kick, a bit of a comic usually.
Ron, Han, Sam, Xander (again Buffy)

And of course the villian.
Voldemort, Darth Vadar, Saruman, The First (the marster etc.)

Not to say there isn't a connection between the characters in Star Wars and Harry Potter but we could say that about most movies.

[Hermione@13]

We still all like Harry better, right!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Anyway, I agree with the_prisoner_of_azkaban, all of the stories have similarities and differences.

[You-Know-Poo]

To go with my STAR WARS theory, In STAR WARS, the Fetts, (Father and Son) are all that good. Draco and his dad, Malfoys, not all that good

[riddlemethis326]

I think anybook can be connected to something else, but I think it's meerly a coincidence that this happens and not incidental at all.

[You-Know-Poo]

Fine, go ahead and think that its coincedence, or whatever, but you have to look at how they all turned out, This was simply started to point out similarities from other story lines like STAR WARS or Buffy, and so on, so please don't say that this is a waste of time, because me and others like me think that it is quite intresting.

It even happens in Pirates of the Caribbean

Luke still caused Vader to die though

This post has been edited by You-Know-Poo: Jun 14 2007, 01:03 AM

[WickedWitchOfThe...]

There is no reason to get upset, You-Know-Poo. In all honesty it is difficult to find a story nowadays that does not have similarities to other stories. Especially in the fantasy world. Riddlemethis is perfectly entitled to their opinion as are you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

One thing you are basing all this off of is that Jo is following the same plot outlook that Star Wars did. She may be, she probably isn't. Now, in most cases the good guy wins, so it will be easy to say that she is if Harry does kill V and win. But it will also be able to say that she is also following the same outlook as LOTR and others as well. I'd probably even go so far as to say it's a bit closer to LOTR only in that Frodo walked away from it all with a scar and so will Harry, lol. But really, I find your comparisons interesting as do others and hope that it will turn out with a happy ending like SW does. But for now all we can do is wait and see.

Luke still caused Vader to die though

On this I'd like to see why you think so. IMHO, I feel that Vader caused it himself. He was the one that changed his mind and destroyed the Emperor (which may have had an impact on his death), and in doing so, died. Now, I don't know if there may have been some kind of connection between Vader and the Emperor that when Vader betrayed him, made it so that he would automatically die, but Vader is the one that got struck by the Emperor while he lifted him up and tossed him over and Vader is the one that made the decision to do that. Now, something a bit more specific may be in the SW books that are out there, I would not know. I have never read them and if you have, I'm sure that you understand what happened better than I do for all that I have to use is what I witnessed in the SW films. But all that I saw was Luke pleading with Vader to help him, Vader struggling with what to do, and Vader's decision and ultimate downfall. Luke didn't make him do anything.

[You-Know-Poo]

Yes Luke didn't physically kill Vader, but he had in his mind, the same anger that Harry does in Book 3 towards Sirius. Had the emperor not enterfered, Luke may have had the chance to kill Vader, then realize what he did was wrong. Do you really think that Harry could live with that. In the long run, Luke caused Vader/Emperor deaths, (Who ever in your mind represents Voldemort) and Harry will hopefully cause Voldemort, but regretably Snape's death

So here is a new idea, George Lucas, didn't have Luke didn't kill Vader because, we knew that he would never be able deal with that emotion. SO maybe JKR will have another character, maybe Snape, switch from bad to good at the last second to kill Voldemort. Because, I don't think that Harry would be able to deal with that emotion.

[WickedWitchOfThe...]

HELLO?

Unnecessary and deleted. Please, no one-liners.

Yes Luke didn't physically kill Vader, but he had in his mind, the same anger that Harry does in Book 3 towards Sirius. Had the emperor not enterfered, Luke may have had the chance to kill Vader, then realize what he did was wrong.

True. Harry does have the same anger that Luke had. But, Luke did have the chance to kill Vader just as Harry did with Sirius. I seem to remember at some point Vader having fallen, the Emperor telling Luke to fulfill his destiny and take his father's place at the Emperor's side, and Luke tossing his lightsaber aside and saying that he wouldn't kill Vader and that is when the Emperor got very angry with Luke and started attacking him, thus making Vader eventually decide to toss the Empreror down that shaft, getting zapped in the process. Whereas Harry chickened out in the Shrieking Shack before Lupin came up.

I guess I can see how Luke caused their deaths though. If it were not for Luke's goodness, the Emperor would've never attacked him and Vader would've never thrown the Emperor down the shaft. So, in a way, it was Luke's fault. Though the specific actions that took place were put into motion by those who performed them.

Do you really think that Harry could live with that.

Do I think Harry could live with thinking that what he did was wrong? No, I don't. Harry is too emotional to have to deal with something like that. But, would he think that killing V would be wrong? I don't think so. But, if it were to come to him killing Snape and then feeling regret over that, I think he would feel it once he found out Snape was on the good side (supposing he is).

SO maybe JKR will have another character, maybe Snape, switch from bad to good at the last second to kill Voldemort.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) As of right now I'm already of the opinion that Snape is acting for the good side. But, as much as I would love to see him turn on Voldy and kill him, I don't think it'll happen. It'd be nice, but I don't think it can happen. It has to be Harry, according to the Prophecy. And I have set a lot of store by the prophecy considering Jo said she worded it so well. Now, I may be interpreting it wrong, that's true. But if that is the case, then I won't be the only one. DD would've been wrong too. In which case she may have been using his interpretation of the prophecy as a Red Herring. But all I have to go on is what Jo says in her interviews and her books. (Though I would love to take a stroll through her mind on occasion, lol.)