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  Apr 12 2005, 04:02 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Manchester, England Member No.: 1,268  |
Theories
:wub: Hello :wub: OK, I’ve been looking through the Harry Potter books and I have managed to cook up some theories that I would like you to hear even if you don’t agree with them. Theory Number 1: This is a very interesting theory, but based on one scrap of evidence (which I know I shall be slated for…). I, along with other people, believe that this is the correct time in the series for something/someone who was misjudged to become known, such as characters turning evil (Ron, Snape etc.), however the simplest theory has not yet been suggested (as far as I know) What if Dumbledore has overlooked something in the prophecy or some new information comes to light that tells us that Neville is actually the one who is ‘marked as Voldemort’s equal’ just not as noticeable way as Harry. The evidence I was talking about was that Neville’s grandmother thought he was a squib until his great uncle Algie dropped him out of a window. Apparently he bounced. Is it clicking yet? In the prophecy it says that one must die at the hands of the other, so in that case, that would be the reason Neville ‘bounced’ when Algie dropped him out of the window. It may seem crazy, but I love the theory! Theory Number 2: Not as interesting, but JK says that we will find out about some of the teachers relatives in the 6th book and JK also told us that ‘a character will be discovering magic rather late in life’ or something like that people think of Petunia, but I have looked further (bare with me, this information is to do with my theory). So just remember that. Now think of the ‘Squib’ Mrs. Figg the cat lover. Is it possible she is related in some way to Minerva McGonagall? Now I know it sounds crazy, but listen to the evidence (well not evidence, but….you know what I mean) *Minerva and Arabella both are seen to be the only characters mentioned wearing tartan. *Arabella also says: “I’ve never so much as transfigured a tea bag…” Transfiguration is Minerva’s subject. This first is something that could be overlooked, but with the other stuff as well. And why did she not say “my potions have never amounted to anything more than soup?” or anything like that? *Mrs. Figg is a great cat lover and Mrs. McGonagall transfigures into a cat I know it’s not much, but it’s only a theory. Theory Number 3: This is a minor hypothesis that Mrs. Figg will play a big part in the final battle. Look at her name: Arabella – This name possibly means War Alterer, Ara means Alter and Bella means War in Latin, this suggests her playing a big part in the final battle. Doreen – This means Golden and Gold is the colour of Victory could this suggest she comes out of the battle victorious? Figg – This name means to conceal, which shows Mrs. Figg probably has more secrets to reveal. Please feel free to criticize the theories; I know you’ll enjoy yourself. :wub: xChloéx :wub: |
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Apr 12 2005, 04:08 PM
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Hugest HP Fan  Group: Members Posts: 3,797 Joined: 29-May 04 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 186 |
Hey, welcome to the boards xchloe-witchx!! :spin:
I really like your theory about Neville! It is strange that he showed no magical ability, until like you said, his Uncle tried to drop him out of the window. I do think that Neville will play a greater role in the next book, and his powers will grow. Thanks for the name meanings, I never knew Mrs Figgs name meant all that. |
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Apr 12 2005, 04:19 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Manchester, England Member No.: 1,268 |
:wub: Hello :wub:
Thank you! It took me a while to sort it all out so it made sense and I knew JK Rowling didn't just pick the names out of her hat, she had reasons so I researched the meaning of it. :wub: x Chloé x :wub: |
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Apr 12 2005, 04:27 PM
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Big HP Fan Group: Members Posts: 866 Joined: 1-February 05 From: Spain Member No.: 1,115 |
Harry didn't show any magical evidence till he was 10 in the zoo and the brazilian boa, so Neville's fall could be just a coincidence.
And I can't see Dumbledore skipping important things of the prophecy (although he was incapable of dealing with the propehcy thing and Harry and Occlumency and all that stuff in OotP, which caused Sirius death in the end :( ) |
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Apr 12 2005, 04:40 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Manchester, England Member No.: 1,268 |
:wub: Hello :wub:
"Harry didn't show any magical evidence till he was 10 in the zoo and the brazilian boa, so Neville's fall could be just a coincidence." Nooo....not how late Nevilles magic showed is not the point, the point is that Neville bounced because he cannot be killed by anyone, but Lord Voldemort. And JK has said Dumbledore knows more, so he could know something to do with Neville, it doesn't have to be that, but I think there's something more to Neville. :wub: Chloé :wub: |
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Apr 12 2005, 05:05 PM
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Greatest HP Fan That Ever Lived Group: Admin Posts: 9,278 Joined: 21-February 04 Member No.: 2 |
Welcome to the boards xchloe-witchx. Your theories are very interesting and worth considering.
The only thing, though, that sticks in my mine is that Voldemort could have chosen Neville also, but instead he chose Harry. He marked Harry as his equal, so yes it could have been Neville, but even if it was, the pressure is now on Harry as V has made it so. Just my opinion though. Oh, and Welcome to the Boards!!! Hope you enjoy yourself!! |
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Apr 12 2005, 05:25 PM
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Greatest HP Fan That Ever Lived Group: Guests Posts: 7,777 Joined: 21-February 04 From: Over the rainbow on the Western end of Oz Member No.: 3 |
First off, Welcome to the Boards xchloe-witchx!!! :D Also, let me applaud you for your theories. Way to go! They're fantastic! :clap: :clap: :clap:
Not quite true. He regrew his hair that one time. He landed on the roof of the school kitchens that other time. He turned his teacher's wig blue or something like that once. So he did show magical abilities, but was never told what they were. Whereas Neville, if he had showed magical abilities, someone would've noticed and said something right away. |
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Apr 12 2005, 05:43 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Manchester, England Member No.: 1,268 |
:wub: Hello :wub: Thank you! Don't worry I'm aware that the theories aren't perfect, but nothing is certain in JK's world of Harry Potter.
How do we know that Neville wasn't marked? I can't remember if it says exactly how the Longbottoms were made crazy, I'm pretty sure it doesn't, it's possible he had some contact with Neville, however I'm not sure how. I'm aware i'm stretching it a little bit, but what does every one think about mrs. figg, is she going to play a bigger part. JK Rowling mentioned there were two things we should be focusing on and one of them was: Squib? :wub: xChloéx :wub: |
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Apr 12 2005, 05:49 PM
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Greatest HP Fan That Ever Lived Group: Admin Posts: 9,278 Joined: 21-February 04 Member No.: 2 |
Hey, all theories are good. JK has thrown a lot of curve balls at us.
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Apr 12 2005, 05:53 PM
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Greatest HP Fan That Ever Lived Group: Guests Posts: 7,777 Joined: 21-February 04 From: Over the rainbow on the Western end of Oz Member No.: 3 |
Voldemort did not have any contact with the Longbottoms. They were tortured by the Lestranges and Crouch Jr. to determine Voldmort's whereabouts after his disappearance. |
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Apr 12 2005, 08:45 PM
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Average HP Fan Group: Members Posts: 414 Joined: 24-June 04 Member No.: 358 |
Xcholoe, (quite a name) I really enjoyed reading your theories. They are well thought out.
In theory one, I too thought it was odd that Neville should be tossed out of a window by his uncle. I really wondered why the uncle would have done such a thing as it would have caused Neville's death and I really wonder what the motive was---I guess I don't buy that it was to test whether or not Neville was a wizard. That would have been found out eventually anyway. I do THINK Harry is the one though mainly because he and Voldemort are both half-bloods. On the official web site, one of the questions to be answered has to do with the significance of Neville being the other boy. Maybe that will shed a little light on this theory. Your theory two is just great. It really holds together and Minerva and Arabella do seem like sisters. Also, Mrs. Figg would have to be an extremely well-trusted squib to be put in charge of watching after Harry. I'll bet Minerva had a hand in her selection. As to theory three, that is also well thought out as names and their meanings play a big part with Ms. Rowling. |
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Apr 12 2005, 11:29 PM
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HP Fan Group: Members Posts: 137 Joined: 8-February 05 Member No.: 1,129 |
Very good theories! :clap:
I don't think that Neville has been marked as V's equal, but your theory has started me wondering about the part of the prophecy that deals with one having to kill the other in order to survive ("...and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives..."). There is no way of knowing if this entire prophecy is about Harry or Harry and Neville both. Harry has definitely been part of vanquishing V at least 3 times now: when he was a baby at Godric's Hollow (of course, here it might have been more Lily's doing than his), at the end of SS, and then again in CoS. Neither one of them is dead as a result of these encounters which in SS did involve literally direct hand contact. So maybe the part about killing one another could have something to do with Neville. :upsidedown: The strange thing is that all three of them have been surviving rather nicely in the same world with each other for the past 15 years...no one is dead yet. But then again Neville, unlike Harry, has never had direct contact with V either. ;) |
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Apr 13 2005, 02:47 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Manchester, England Member No.: 1,268 |
:wub: Hello :wub:
I also thought the reason why Dumbledore didn't try to kill Voldemort is because you know how Harry and Voldemort are connected (and the connection is growing stronger), maybe it would effect Harry, I know Dumbledore can't kill Voldemort anyway, but maybe if he hurt him serious enough to make it easier for Harry then Harry would be hurt because of their connection. Sorry, I don't know if I've rambled or if that makes sense, but never mind. :wub: Chloé :wub: |
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Apr 13 2005, 11:22 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 5-July 04 Member No.: 449 |
Cool theories but i just thought I should quibble on one bit.
"Ara" in Latin actually means "altar" as in the focus of a church or temple not "alter" |
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Apr 13 2005, 09:13 PM
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Hugest HP Fan Group: Members Posts: 5,658 Joined: 22-February 04 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 13 |
maybe because it is Harry's "destiny" to kill V. |
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Apr 14 2005, 11:30 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Manchester, England Member No.: 1,268 |
:wub: Hello :wub:
This isn't really a theory, but why did the dementors not effect Sirius? If it was mentioned in the books then I appologise, but I can't remember whether it was. What do you all make of Proffesser Trelawney? Is she a fraud? I think she can tend to be too melodramatic, but I don't think she's a fraud, after all though no one took her on board, in the PoA she correctly predicted that Lupin would not be with them for long. The others took it as death however it was true he would be leaving the school soon. Also about the subject of 'who got up first from the table of thirteen' for all the people who fear the death of Dumbledore, McGonagall and Hermione you don't have anything to worry about because either Harry or Ron will die before them and I highly doubt either of them will die until the last book, so those chracters should be 'safe'. That is if the superstition is true, however I doubt JK would put it in their without it being of any special significance. But I would like to note Lupin was not there, so that does not exclude him from dying. :wub: xChloéx :wub: |
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Apr 14 2005, 11:34 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Manchester, England Member No.: 1,268 |
Also I appologise for my incorrect interpretation of the words Altar/Alter, but names do play a significant part in the characters of JK, so there probably is another meaning behind that. The sites I looked up said Altar, but said it possibly meant 'War Alterer'
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Apr 14 2005, 04:31 PM
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Hugest HP Fan Group: Members Posts: 3,797 Joined: 29-May 04 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 186 |
Sirius was affected, but whilst in prison he transformed into a dog, and then the dementors couldnt drain his memories.
I dont know what to make of Proffesser Trelawney, she has had made some real predictions, but then she does make stuff up as well, I dont know, and honestly I dont put any faith in that who got up first from the table stuff :) |
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Apr 14 2005, 05:09 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 12-April 05 From: Manchester, England Member No.: 1,268 |
:wub: Hello :wub:
Ah, yeh it's coming back to me now. Yes Trelawney's a strange one. I don't think we'll ever really know anything about her. :wub: xChloéx :wub: |
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Apr 15 2005, 10:15 PM
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Hugest HP Fan Group: Members Posts: 5,658 Joined: 22-February 04 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 13 |
considering trelawny's ex-subject teaching at a particluar subject, it arises to me that she is a bit strange! :rolleyes:
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