Who will lead the Order now?, DD's dead: who will step up? Options

[Dan_D_Lion]

Call me blond, but I didn't know that they had a leader. 02:toofunny: "Wake up!"

Well, since they apparently had a leader, I guess the next possible canidate would be Moody or Mr. Weasley. I'm leaning more towards Moody because he is more wiser than Weasley. 10:unsure:

And I doubt Harry will be a leader. They would be putting to much pressure on the poor guy. He already has the wizarding world on his shoulder. But I think they will include Harry more, now that he is of age.
Oh, and that's another reason I doubt it will be Harry. Because he is too young. He just barely turned 17.




Then again, age is only a number in some cases.

[Walkyrie]

I like all the theories and frankly think they are all correct to the following extent - there is now a huge power vacuum and various leaders and strong wizards will step up in interim laedership roles. But the effort will still be fractured by lack of information and confusion. Who can solve that? Who did Dumbledore confide the most important theories to? Harry! Make no mistake, he is the heir apparent just from the standpoint that NOONE else stands a chance against LV. Harry wanted to be an Auror - can you say King of the Aurors! People have pointed out that Harry "is a wizard of no greaat skill or ability" - baloney! Whether it's luck, or being surrounded by good people, or stange powers and as-yet-unrecognized inner resources, Harry has got what it takes and DD knows/knew it. DD said your life is more important than MINE (himself, DD, the leader of the OotP, and yet Harry is more important!).

Harry will be a unifying force within the roken and confused Order - he will rally the group to their ultimate purpose. Not teaching or working at the Ministry or whatever else they have been doing at their day jobs . . . this is a full on fight now and I for one think Harry will step up to the plate and become the leader he was destined to be.

I hope.

[GuinnessG1rl]

But the order will need a secret keeper, and it will have to be someone who would never tell LV the location even during torture or something. I think that an Auror will probably take the post as secret keeper as they will be the best to do it.

[starryeyez]

Don't think Lupin, he gotta be off with the wolfs a whole lot.
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i don't think that lupin is going to be off with the 'wolfs' a whole lot because fernir now knows that lupin was with dumbldore.. right? unless he missed him in the little brawl during dumbledore's death...? 01:)

[starryeyez]

i personally think that if someone does end up 'leading' the order.. that it will be someone we 'know' really well.. i mean JKR isn't just going to throw someone into the books..is she? it would take forever for her to write the character so we would trust him/her.. right? so i think people are on the right track when they say that lupin.arthur.or even harry himself end up 'leading' them... 01:)

[chris_1988]

though, if it was Alberforth it wouldn't take JK long to make us respect him, we practically already do just because he is DD's brother.

[GuinnessG1rl]

But I think that the other members of the order wouldnt accept Aberforth straight away because they hardly know him. No one does.
I think to gain trust we will have to see him working for them with no regard for the 'job'.

[GinnyPotter]

Here is something slightly off topic, but related nonetheless, that I have been wondering about...

If DD was the OotP's secret keeper, as a now dead man, can anybody who knows the location of headquaters now reveal it... or is the magic still intact. Also, will a new secret keeper be elected?

[GuinnessG1rl]

I dont think the charm 'dies with him' but they will have to elect a new secret keeper. But Snape said that the magic stops him from revealing the location, so maybe there will be no new recruits until they have a secret keeper again.

[chris_1988]

i think it is likely that DD's death will have brought about the end of the OOTP for taht very reason.
He was the secret keeper, now he is dead, so the charm will be broken.

[GuinnessG1rl]

I dont think it will end the OotP, the people who fight for the OotP are all there to help defeat LV and will not just stop because of DD death.
Many of their friends have died already, and although DD was secret keeper it doenst matter as they have moved location anyway.

[spudbud11330]

question and thought (dont think its off topic)...did the new minister know anything about the order and its existince?? my guess was no because of the whole secret keeper spell. however now that the secret keeper of DD is gone and assuming the spell does not work anymore, could the minister discover the order and see this as an opportunity to gain more power? he struck me as a somewhat power-hungry, "must take charge" type of guy. he really wants to do a better job than fudge...so he may go to desperate measures to satisfy the citizen wizards. he may see the order as a valuable addition to the ministry for a fight with voldamort. with DD (one of the few who showed any athority over the minister) gone, no one may be able to stop him, not even harry if he DID take a "leadership" role in the order. even though harry basically said "screw you!!" to the minister's face, he will eventually just laugh at Harry because of his age and say something like "you cant tell me, THE MINISTER, what to do!!!". if this happens, what will become of the order???...major reform? end? or would the minister have total control over it?

may seem like a crazy thought to some, but i think it is logical
what you all think?

[chris_1988]

I think it is more likely that he would use them as a scapegoat than an ally.

If the existence of the Order became public they would be the perfect people to blame for all the ministries stuff ups. Scrimgeour (spl??) seems the type to do this.

[Walkyrie]

you're right - the Order is just another example of DD doing his own thing outside the boundaries of Ministry control. So they very well could lay some serious blame to try and fade the heat from enraged parents. I've been wondering why Harry refused to tell McGonagall anything about the horcruxes or the lessons he had with DD. I know DD said tell no one but Ron and Hermione, but i took that to mean other students and maybe Scrimgoer - I always thought McGonagall was trusted and liked by Harry. (by the way what's the abreviation for McGonagall? I haven't really seen one on the boards . . . something like McG?)

[chris_1988]

perhaps he thought that if he told anyone they would try to stop him from getting them.
and also, the more people know that harry is aware of the horcruxes the more chance there is that LV will find out. best keep it secret

[hpdork]

When Dumbledore said Harry could tell Ron and Hermione, I think he meant them and not a single other soul. Sure, McGonagall is in the order and is trustworthy, but I think Dumbledore wanted no one to know. Because of the fear that Voldemort could find out what's going on.

[Malice]

My first inclination was to say Moody. The others seem to spend a lot of energy quashing his secruity measures so I'm not certain.

McGonnigal? No. Far to busy dealing with the aftermath of DD's death, the running of Hogwarts and having to find a second for the position that she was doing as second in command. She will have her hands full with panicing parents, traumatized students and staff. Can you say post traumatic stress councelling?

Now, if they don't open Hogwarts next year.....

Bill. A good choice that I hadn't thought of! Too young?

Kingsley Shacklebolt seems a nice fit. He's intellingent, seems to have his head on straight and a good grasp of the ministry as well as what's going on. He has my vote for now. 15^_^

[hpdork]

Kingsley Shacklebolt seems a nice fit.  He's intellingent, seems to have his head on straight and a good grasp of the ministry as well as what's going on.  He has my vote for now.  15^_^
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I don't know if Kingsley Shacklebolt will head the order, but it seems like he might have a bigger role--not huge, but a little more significant.

[chris_1988]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but JKR has been quoted as saying a small character will play a large p[art in the next book. So it is likely that it is one of the little known members of the Order

[spork]

What about Dedalus Diggle? lol, he's a small enough character in the Order! 02:lol:

But seriously, I think either Bill or Kingsley will run the Order. Harry seems to be running away, so he couldn't run the Order. Moody seems more like an enforcer than a leader. Arthur and Molly have their family to worry about. And Mundungus....well...come on. It's Mundungus.

I'm rooting more for Kingsley than Bill, but we'll know when book 7 comes out, right?