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Jun 10 2005, 05:13 AM
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Hugest HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,658 Joined: 22-February 04 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 13 |
I just finished POA and i was thinking upon reading the chapter, "Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs" and came to this conclusion.
We all know that: Moony = Lupin Wormtail = Pettigrew Padfoot = Sirius Prongs = James Well, it occured to me that if you read them from the bottom as in: prongs, padfoot, wormtail and moony that prongs comes first then padfoot etc. If read this way, to me i discovered that its the order of death. Prongs died the night when Harry got the scar, Padfoot went beyond the veil and maybe next to die is wormtail and then moony. Let me know what you think because it brings about discussions leasing up to HBP |
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Jun 10 2005, 08:59 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 8-June 05 From: Illinois, USA Member No.: 1,455 |
that is a good observation... but it brings about another thing.. so does that mean that wormtail's silver hand isn't going to affect moony at all?
*just bringing up another point* :) |
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Jun 11 2005, 01:47 AM
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Hugest HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,658 Joined: 22-February 04 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 13 |
well who said that theory does not stand...it could all possibly happen in the 6th or then even the last. But i will still support the silver hand theory and also my own just above...
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Jun 11 2005, 09:08 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 8-June 05 From: Illinois, USA Member No.: 1,455 |
that theory could very possibly stand.. i belive that it is a good guide line.. i just thoguht that the silver hand thing could bring up another point into it...
i loved ur observation.. i didn't catch it either! :) gosh.. anything could happen in these books! |
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Sep 3 2005, 04:15 PM
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Huge HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: 20-August 05 From: Sunny California Member No.: 3,572 |
Yup! Maybe Wormtail will die and Moony won't or maybe they'll die together in the last book or maybe Wormtail will die and then Lupin will help Harry fight V and V dies, but then so does Harry and Lupin. It's all very confusing, but I have a lot of theories. It's just that I never right them down, so I always forget them. Maybe I should right them down. That's not a bad idea.
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Dec 25 2005, 03:51 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 21-December 05 From: melbourne, australia Member No.: 4,355 |
good observation.. although we do not how how accurate this is yet since only two of them have died...
and if wormtail dies in the seventh book, i wonder who will kill him? harry, because wormtail betrayed his parents? lupin, wormtail's old friend? ron, his old owner? i wish sirius could have killed him.. |
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Jan 17 2006, 01:11 PM
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Average HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 309 Joined: 18-July 05 From: MA,USA Member No.: 2,154 |
Maybe wormtail will turn good because of his debt to harry and then Voldemort will kill him or another death eater.
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Mar 24 2006, 01:09 PM
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But firstly I truly didn't understand it.
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Apr 18 2006, 12:55 PM
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Hugest HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,079 Joined: 23-February 04 From: Argentina!!! Member No.: 35 |
well, wormtail still has to pay his debt to harry, because harry saved his life, so maybe, as many said, he could die to svae harry, and ten moony can marry tonks, have a lot of children, and die when he's a very old man.
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Apr 18 2006, 02:53 PM
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Average HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 2-April 06 Member No.: 4,790 |
I think that's a very good observation and I think I quite agree with you. I'm not sure if Wormtail will really return to the good side, but he won't die at the hands of the Order. At least that's what I think. I don't believe his silver hand will come into play much with Lupin either. He might injure Lupin, but not kill him.
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Apr 19 2006, 01:38 PM
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Hugest HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,079 Joined: 23-February 04 From: Argentina!!! Member No.: 35 |
but i'd like to know why does people think that wormtail could harm lupin with his silvery hand? he could do it easily with his wand... and, well, lupin let peter live, so peter could have a debt with him, too... what do you think? and, why do all the marauders have to die?
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Apr 19 2006, 03:18 PM
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Average HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 2-April 06 Member No.: 4,790 |
Because silver is what kills werewolves and that's what Wormtail's hand is made of.
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May 1 2006, 10:26 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 23 Joined: 28-April 06 From: Vikebukt, Norway Member No.: 4,880 |
QUOTE(starryeyez @ Jun 10 2005, 02:59 PM) that is a good observation... but it brings about another thing.. so does that mean that wormtail's silver hand isn't going to affect moony at all? *just bringing up another point* :) [right][snapback]68675[/snapback][/right] Is there something I've missed? Why should it effect him? 11:blink: Sorry... 10:unsure: |
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Aug 29 2006, 12:17 PM
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Hugest HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,540 Joined: 18-August 06 From: United Kingdom, London Member No.: 5,324 |
It is the backwards order of death James dies first then, Sirius maybe then peter then lupin.
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Aug 29 2006, 06:07 PM
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Huge HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: 20-August 05 From: Sunny California Member No.: 3,572 |
I don't think we should be worrying about the order, but the reason of their deaths, but that's just me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Since this thread is about the order...here's my opinion: I'm still not sure I believe that all of them are going to die.
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Aug 30 2006, 10:50 PM
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Huge HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,013 Joined: 20-June 06 From: The Shrieking Shack Hogsmede Member No.: 5,046 |
As we know, Prongs has died, Padfoot has also died. But we are left with Wormtail and Moody. Of course both of them WILL die eventually(unless they pull a elixer of life style event, even then EVENTUALLY). Doesn't mean they will die in the last book. Wormtail could die at 60 or 70 and then Moony much older. Still, I'm intrigued by this order.
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Sep 3 2006, 05:07 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 30-August 06 From: Honeydukes Member No.: 5,380 |
QUOTE(cruticus @ Jun 10 2005, 06:13 AM) [snapback]68660[/snapback] I just finished POA and i was thinking upon reading the chapter, "Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs" and came to this conclusion. We all know that: Moony = Lupin Wormtail = Pettigrew Padfoot = Sirius Prongs = James Well, it occured to me that if you read them from the bottom as in: prongs, padfoot, wormtail and moony that prongs comes first then padfoot etc. If read this way, to me i discovered that its the order of death. Prongs died the night when Harry got the scar, Padfoot went beyond the veil and maybe next to die is wormtail and then moony. Let me know what you think because it brings about discussions leasing up to HBP |
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Sep 3 2006, 07:14 PM
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Huge HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,872 Joined: 20-August 05 From: Sunny California Member No.: 3,572 |
I would like to think Wormtail dies paying his debt to Harry, but I feel that is too obvious. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Possibly, Lupin stays alive?
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Dec 27 2006, 01:43 AM
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Average HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 399 Joined: 10-January 06 From: Oregon U.S.A. Member No.: 4,472 |
Well everyone dies edventually so it could just mean that wormtail will die when he is 78 and moony when he is 79 or something. On the other hand it could be just a coincidance (whech is what I think). I mean it was the order on the map, not neccisaraly how they called themselves know what I mean?
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Dec 27 2006, 09:23 AM
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Average HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 335 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Sioux Falls, SD, United States of America Member No.: 4,063 |
Alright, here part of a theory, and another one, what if lupin doesn't die at all? I mean what if it's just james, sirius, and peter, what if it's not the order they died, but the order in which who lived the longest....yes, I believe, peter will die saving harry, and if lupin has to die, I think it will be from fighting Fenrir Greyback, just a thought? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/gandalf.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dragon.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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