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> R.A.B. theories, Merging all R.A.B. theories here
GryffSolider
post Jul 17 2005, 05:56 PM
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I knew I remember there was a mention of a locket in another book and I just remembered Where is the locket? On page 116 of OotP Sirius and the gang doing house duty were cleaning a cabinet which had a little box and some wartcap powder i believe and a ' locket which none of them could open ' I bet that is the real locket and RAB is Regulus!

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post Jul 17 2005, 06:00 PM
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yeah, this has already been mentioned...in one of the "who is RAB" polls I think...
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post Jul 17 2005, 06:01 PM
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This has been mentioned sooo many times I'm too tired of repeating myself, lol
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post Jul 17 2005, 06:02 PM
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22:cry: opps you all to fast!
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post Jul 17 2005, 06:09 PM
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Nope, we just have less of a life than you do! lol I've been on here on and off for erm...almost 7 hours...OMG that's how long it took me to read HBP...no wonder I've posted so much!! lol

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post Jul 18 2005, 01:35 PM
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I reckon that it could well be Regulus Black. The R and B fit and now wondering what the A means!
Was discussing this matter with my friend Janet and she came up with the theory (or read it on another forum) that the A could stand for Alphard as Sirius and Regulus have an Uncle Alphard and many of the witches and wizards have middle names after and Uncle/Aunt. For example, Ron's middle name is Billius and he has an uncle Billius
I reckon it could be him. Okay, all we are told (or all that I can find so far!) about Regulus Black is that he was a year younger than Sirius and that he was killed 15 yrs before Order of the Phenoix, so 16yrs ago now. So Regulus died at the same time (ish) that Harry was born, or that the prophecy was made! It all fits! The note definately suggests that they're against Lord Voldemort, but has possibly been a death eater in the past hence refers to LV as the Dark Lord. He joined the Death Eaters and so was favoured over Sirius by the family. Regulus was killed by Voldermort or rather on Voldermorts orders, now this could be because he messed with one of his horticuxes maybe? I dunno. Or the other theory, which is Janets is that we know that Regulus was a death eater then 'chickened out' according to Sirius - he knew he would be killed for this so maybe decided to destroy horcrux to get revenge?
Anyone have any views on our theories?

I reckon that Regulus was bullied into becoming a DE by parents and fell into their trap because he wasn't as strong as Sirius and enjoyed their praise but soon realised that it wasn't all it was cracked up to be and so repented. He somehow found out about the Hortcuxes and decided to destroy them, maybe knowing of the prophecy through Sirius who would ahve heard through James that LV was after them.
Ooooooh and so long to wait 05:(
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post Jul 18 2005, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(HiddenFlame42 @ Jul 17 2005, 05:09 PM)
Nope, we just have less of a life than you do! lol  I've been on here on and off for erm...almost 7 hours...OMG that's how long it took me to read HBP...no wonder I've posted so much!! lol

Oh, and welcome to HPP!!! (in case I haven't said it yet!)
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WHATS THIS PAGE 116 RUBBISH? I have read it and thers no mention of any locket, its about Harry and Mr Wesaly going to the mintsry for his trial! STOP POSTING INNCORTECT INFORMATION!
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post Jul 18 2005, 02:03 PM
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Um, you need to calm down. That can, and will get you thrown off the boards. Take it from someone who knows. I suggest you edit it and apologize to whoever you offended. These boards want o make sure everyone is welome. I don't think that person did it on prupose, more likely than not, it was a typo.

Welcome to the Boards, the three of you.
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post Jul 18 2005, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(halfbloodprincess393 @ Jul 18 2005, 01:57 PM)
WHATS THIS PAGE 116 RUBBISH? I have read it and thers no mention of any locket, its about Harry and Mr Wesaly going to the mintsry for his trial! STOP POSTING INNCORTECT INFORMATION!
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Do you think possibly you are reading a different version than the quoted person? We're all a bit edgy, but yelling is hardly warranted.
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post Jul 18 2005, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(cobrady @ Jul 18 2005, 03:43 PM)
Do you think possibly you are reading a different version than the quoted person?  We're all a bit edgy, but yelling is hardly warranted.
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Yes my version is different and I didn't find the quote on pg 116. That was about Arthur and Harry going to the MoM but the quote was just a few pages back. Check pg 108. There's a mention of a locket there in the third paragraph. I don't believe it is THE locket (see RAB post for my theory)

Hope that helps.
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post Jul 18 2005, 03:30 PM
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So it's generally agreed that RAB is Regulus Black, but what "A" stands for is a mystery. A possibility is that A stands for Alphard - the uncle who Sirius mentioned to have left him an inheritance. It's likely that Regulus was named after his uncle. Any other ideas?
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post Jul 18 2005, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE(waitingfor7 @ Jul 18 2005, 03:30 PM)
So it's generally agreed that RAB is Regulus Black, but what "A" stands for is a mystery. A possibility is that A stands for Alphard - the uncle who Sirius mentioned to have left him an inheritance.  It's likely that Regulus was named after his uncle. Any other ideas?
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This is as good a guess as you'll get from me, so I'll agree. I really don't know... heck, while it's widely agreed that it is Regulus Black, we're not even sure of that... maybe that was what we were meant to think right away? But if it is, how important is the middle initial really? (not to discredit your topic, I am just wondering if it has any significance?)
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post Jul 18 2005, 08:15 PM
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It probably doesn't have any importance, but it is fun to guess. Furthermore I really would be annoyed if JKR introduced a new character at this point in the game. I think she should stick with an oldie, whether it is Regulus or not for RAB. Also perhaps she is throwing us a bone and giving us an easy clue for once--haha! Finally, as far as middle initials go I would have to look back to the family tree. Wonder what Sirius's middle name was.
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post Jul 19 2005, 09:05 AM
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Yeah I reckon that its Regulus and that his middle name is Alphard like you said. After all many witches and wizards have had the middle name of an Aunt or Uncle, like Ron for instance whos middle name is Billius and that is the name of his uncle 02:D
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post Jul 19 2005, 09:47 AM
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I thought it may be a Black family member who changed the Horcrux, but from what we know of Regulus he just doesnt seem that clever, or does he? Lol.
This is just a thought, but could it not be another member, cause I still think it is a Black Family Member.
Ok, im waffling, lol.
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post Jul 19 2005, 10:01 AM
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I am not HP fanatic--yet-- but HP will return to black's house on the final installment, so maybe he'll find something there regarding Regulus Black or R.A.B..... Crap, Does anyone have a time machine?
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post Jul 20 2005, 09:46 AM
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A new name, for you to consider. And a VERY interesting theory.

Amy Benson.

I was looking over my little brother's shoulder just now, as he read Half-Blood Prince. (I myself have finished it, but he's still way behind.) He was reading the chapter entitled The Secret Riddle. Something caught my eye...Amy Benson.

Amy Benson is one of the two children that Riddle did something very frightening to in "The Cave" itself, where the Horcrux was.

Amy could have another forename begining 'R'. Making her R.A.B. (As people suggested for R. Amelia Bones)

However... consider this, for a second.

Amy Benson. Amelia Bones.

(Ameila Bones being one of the people already mentioned in this topic. She is someone who has been killed by the death eaters.)

Amy easily could be a contraction of the name Ameila. Bones is an anagram of Benson, with one less N.

In short. My theory is this... Amy/Amelia Benson was also a unknowing child witch, living at the orphanage. When she turned eleven, she too went to Hogwarts, learned she was a witch in the typical fashion, and later took a job in the wizarding world. "Bones" was a new identity she assumed, maybe to protect her identity from Voldemort, or maybe just as a new name for her newfound identiy as a witch.

But at some point she gains knowledge of the Horcruxes (Maybe by becoming a Death Eater?), and goes back to the Cave in which she was so horribly mentally scarred as a child by the young Riddle. And exacts revenge upon him by destroying, or stealing at least, the locket Horcrux.

Sumarry. Amy Benson is Amelia Bones. Scarred as a child by Riddle. Takes revenge on Voldemort in the same place he hurt her, in the Cave.

Interesting, no? What do you think??
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post Jul 20 2005, 09:52 AM
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I dont know thats an interesting thing to think about, however there is really no evidence Amy Benson is a witch. I think its a little far fetched but then I really support Regulus as being R.A.B. so I'm not really one to judge. Since we dont know THaat much about him either 15^_^ . Also the whole name changing thing i think it would be more likely if hte anagram wasnt missing an N but I dontknow anything is possible Jk just has to write it.
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post Jul 20 2005, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(Frozen Flame @ Jul 20 2005, 09:46 AM)
[Sumarry.  Amy Benson is Amelia Bones.  Scarred as a child by Riddle.  Takes revenge on Voldemort in the same place he hurt her, in the Cave.

Interesting, no?  What do you think??
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definitely interesting. But DD tells Harry the story with the children and the cave. And DD would know if another child from that orphanage came to Hogwarts, wouldn't he? So he would have known about her changed identity (the Hogwarts registry), and would perhaps have spoken with her about what happened there. And DD considered Amelia Bones's death as a great loss - wouldn't that suggest they were close? Close enough for her to tell DD about something as vital as the Horcrux she supposedly took?
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post Jul 20 2005, 10:05 AM
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Ah, yes, that is very true Jamie. You would have thouhgt Dumbledore might have mentioned that. Memory charm perhaps...?

MaraudersG1rl, I think you mihg tbe being a little bit too openly dismissive. Sure, there's no evidence she was a witch, but...should this theory have any truth, I think it is likely JKR has done her best to keep this very secret. If she had said in the book 'Amy Benson also became a witch' it might give the game away a bit too much.

Looking at the base facts... people already suspect it could be Amelia Bones if not Regalus, beacuse of the name thing alone. And the fact that JKR reveals information very specifally and deliberately. Amy Benson is VERY similar to Amelia Bones. I think the fact she has been to the Cave before does rather put her up for slightly more investigation?

Its not like it was just some random child's name pulled from the blue. Amy Bones has experienced Voldemort before.

Hmm... are there any other clues that I have overlooked?
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