R.A.B. theories, Merging all R.A.B. theories here Options

[Cruciatus]

The fact that a locket was found at the House of Black and that Mundungus has been stealing things from it. Why would JKR mention that Mundungus is stealing things from 12GP if it had no relevance to the story? When does JKR do this?

[Frozen Flame]

The fact that a locket was found at the House of Black and that Mundungus has been stealing things from it. Why would JKR mention that Mundungus is stealing things from 12GP if it had no relevance to the story? When does JKR do this?
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Hehe. No, I haven't overlooked that.

I am very much a fan of the Regalus theory, don't get me wrong... I'm just looking into other possibilites... as the ideas for the Regalus theory are already running dry...

But obviously, people want to dismiss this. Which I think is a bit of a shame, for a topic Rowling obviously wanted to be subject to discussion for the next two years.

Yeh, I did actually think of Regalus Black myself before coming to read the forums. And also made the connection about Mundungus stealing it from before I read it anywhere. So yeah, please don't mistake me. I understand the overwhelming evidence for Regalus.

But Rowling is a Mistress of plot devices, and decieving us...

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Hmm... any more takers on this theroy?

[GuinnessG1rl]

My head is buzzin now! 12:wacko:
This Amy/Amelia thing actually had me thinking.
U wondered wether if one of the 2 kids from the cave had anyother part to the story.
But mayb DD didnt mention the lil grl bing A.Bones cause she - like LV - tried 2 4get her past.
And tried to get on with it, create a new life, mayb sumfin DD didnt kno, or overlooked.
01:)

[Frozen Flame]

Yay! Someone agrees with me!

I always thought Amelia Bones was a strange name. Well, Bones. Its seems a little be TOO witchy. Perhaps the sort of name someone would invent for themself, rather than inheriting it through family. The fact that it can be made from the letters Benson, isa huge clue, I think.

[Niffler!]

I really think you are a genius.

Maybe Amy/Amelia and Regalus knew each other somehow....... OR!!!!! OH!!!!!! PICK ME!!!!!!!!!!!

If DD KNEW about Amy/Amelia being here before, and called her death a great loss, maybe she managed to GIVE him the locket, and HE put it in the OotP HQ.

R. could be like a title, like Blah Blah M.P. If you get what I mean? Though I doubt she was Reverand Amy Benson..........lol

[Cruciatus]

There is an entire wizarding family named Bones. There is Susan Bones and her parents who were killed during the first war. Bones isn't an invented name...

[GuinnessG1rl]

Mayb this girl was adopted?
Her parents saw she was a majick kid, so it wudnt look weird.
Adopted her. and renamed her A.BOnes?
Why not! Lol.
LV was in the same ophanige afta all.

[Frozen Flame]

Cruciatus, you seem very closed minded about this. Why won't you admit that there is some case for this? I have provided a clear and substancial case.

The Regalus theory itself hangs only on the initals also, and the locket thing at Grimauld Place. The Grimauld Place locket could be a red herring. If it is, then this is the NEXT most plausable theory.

[Jamie Rose]

If DD KNEW about Amy/Amelia being here before, and called her death a great loss, maybe she managed to GIVE him the locket, and HE put it in the OotP HQ.

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well I have to confess now you' ve lost me. Are you serious??? In case you are - what wold have been the point of the whole Harry-and-DD-are-going-to-the-cave-adventure??? Surely then DD knew where Amelia had found the locket and wouldn't have bothered to nearly die there???

[Frozen Flame]

well I have to confess now you' ve lost me. Are you serious??? In case you are - what wold have been the point of the whole Harry-and-DD-are-going-to-the-cave-adventure??? Surely then DD knew where Amelia had found the locket and wouldn't have bothered to nearly die there???
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Yeah, you're right about that Jamie. Whoever said that was being a bit farfeteched.

However, I think the points I made at the begining are still very valid.

[sweetsixteen]

Interesting theory, buy I dont think its possible.

Dumbledore knows a lot, I think he would have known about any Orphaned kids that went to the same place Tom Riddle did that turned out to be magical.

I think the R is the most important letter in that acranim. (sp?)

[Frozen Flame]

What do you mean, sweet?

[MaraudersG1rl]

Yeah like it MIGHT be true and i bet JK could pull it off but liek I think it would be more likely if there was a reason for R and if DD had mentioned Amy Benson being magical.

[hannahviolin]

My problem with the Amy Benson theory, and the Amelia Bones theory, is that the note said I will be long dead by the time you read this, and Amelia Bones was only recently killed. It seems unlikely that she would have done that, some time ago, and yet know she would be long dead. The Regulus theory works because he has indeed been dead for some time, and knew he was likely to die since his allegiance changed.

[Frozen Flame]

My problem with the Amy Benson theory, and the Amelia Bones theory, is that the note said I will be long dead by the time you read this, and Amelia Bones was only recently killed.  It seems unlikely that she would have done that, some time ago, and yet know she would be long dead.

You haven't really thought that through.

She only thought that by the time Voldemort read the message she would be 'long dead'. Even if she wrote it a year ago from when Harry and Dumbledore found it, it doens't matter. She believed that Voldemort wouldn't find it for a long time.

She reckoned Voldemort wouldn't find out the truth for a LONG time. Like ten, twenty thirty years. She didn't bank on Harry and Dumbledore finding it instead, did she?

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I like this idea because its fun. It gives us something to talk about... and I haven't seen any other good theories other than the Regalus one. Which is of course, the most likely and convincing, and who I also believe is the real Horcrux thief.

[Phlegm]

Dumbledore took the fake horcrux locket with him to the cave (the one with the message in from "R.A.B") intending to put the fake one in the bowl and take the real one. He takes the real one but in the rush and him being slightly weakened/delirious from drinking the liquid, he does not have time to take the fake one from his robes and put it in the bowl. He puts it the real one round his neck or next to his chest in his robes. When Snape comes to the tower, either from prearrangement (maybe the argument which Hagrid witnessed betweeen Dumbledore and Snape) or from reading each other's minds (they were both skilled Legilimens) Dumbledore asks Snape to destroy the horcrux which is by his chest. This might explain Dumbledore's "pleading" if Snape is having doubts about killing Dumbledore. The book says Snape's Avada Kedavra curse hits Dumbledore "squarely in the chest" which is where the real locket is, destroying the locket (also killing Dumbledore). Harry then finds the fake Horcrux locket in Dumbledore's robes. R.A.B could stand for something in Latin or an organisation or maybe is just a red herring from Rowling. ‘Regulus Black’ is too obvious. JKR doesn’t tend to go for the obvious.
Clever??!

[MaraudersG1rl]

That's a good theory and osmething to think about, but would Snape have to kill DD to destroy the Horcrux. Also I think DD would have told Harry about the fake one but maybe not u never know, DD is a mysterious guy. I still think it might be regulus but your right that does seem a little too obvious...like how many ppl when they first read thought immediatly Regulus? Well I did and a lot of times JK does things like that, where u immediatly think its someone and then its the opposite of who u thought. So I dont think I'm going to descide who i think it is for sure yet.

[chris_1988]

i doubt that RAB is dumbledore. Also i doubt an avada kedava curse could destroy the horcrux. and if it could, surely it would have killed DD anyway, so im sure he is dead either way.
Harry's 1st task in the next book will be to find RAB. it gives JK something to start off with.

[Phlegm]

i doubt that RAB is dumbledore. Also i doubt an avada kedava curse could destroy the horcrux. and if it could, surely it would have killed DD anyway, so im sure he is dead either way.
Harry's 1st task in the next book will be to find RAB. it gives JK something to start off with.
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Why do you doubt that avada kedavra could destroy a horcrux? Just a fang destroyed the horcrux in Riddle's diary. And yes, it did kill DD - I never said it didn't.
Yes, I do think Harry will try to discover who RAB is but surely his main task will be to find the other Horcruxes.