![]() ![]() |
May 2 2006, 12:21 AM
Post
#41
|
|
|
Huge HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: News Posters Posts: 1,231 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Australia Member No.: 4,800 |
Sorry if someone else has already figured this out, but when I was re-reading the fourth book I came across two separate pages with names that refer to R.A.B. In the fourth book on page 461, Sirius is talking to Harry, Ron, and Hermione in the cave where he is hiding. He mentions a few death eaters… Sirius: “Rosier and Wilkes – they were both killed by Aurors the year before Voldemort fell. The Lestranges – they’re a married couple – they’re in Azkaban. Avery – from what I’ve heard he wormed his way out of trouble by saying he’d been acting under the Imperius curse – he’s still at large.” This could mean that Rosier and Avery, could have been part of R.A.B. There could be another person, whose name started with a ‘b’ who took part of destroying the Hocrux. The on page 512, when Harry is in the pensieve, Karkaroff mentions other death eaters… Karkaroff: “Rockwood who was a spy, and passed He Who Must Not Be Named useful information from inside the ministry itself.” Mr. Crouch: “Rockwood? Augustus Rockwood of the Department of Mysteries? This could mean that Augustus Rockwood might have a first name that he doesn’t reveal, or is not revealed in the books, and if his first name started with a ‘r’, then it would fit in to R.A.B. Even though both of these theories are a bit far-fetched, and it is more likely that R.A.B is Regulas Black, please tell me what you think of them. 02:D |
|
|
|
May 2 2006, 09:35 AM
Post
#42
|
|
|
Average HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 2-April 06 Member No.: 4,790 |
I've actually made a similar prediction in the other RAB thread (I didn't realize there were two). And I agree with you completely that it very well could be the names of three death eaters. At first I thought it might Rodolphus And Bellatrix, but I don't know if I have reasons for it, and then like you I thought about Rockwood, Avery, and someone else with the last name B.
|
|
|
|
May 8 2006, 12:00 AM
Post
#43
|
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 7-May 06 Member No.: 4,916 |
i read in another forum that lang. translations changed R.A.B. to R.A.N and R.A.M and oddly enough black was changed to something that started w/ a N and M depending on which lang. version you had. this could be a big way to realize that it could be the answer. but i also wouldnt think JKR would tell that many ppl the truth since it would be bound to leak somewhere if she did. w/ all the secruity about the secrets of this i just cant see her telling that many ppl, so it could just be the translaters guessing, but i dunno. just something to think about
|
|
|
|
May 8 2006, 06:03 AM
Post
#44
|
|
|
Greatest HP Fan That Ever Lived ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 9,278 Joined: 21-February 04 Member No.: 2 |
QUOTE(Anti @ May 8 2006, 12:00 AM) i read in another forum that lang. translations changed R.A.B. to R.A.N and R.A.M and oddly enough black was changed to something that started w/ a N and M depending on which lang. version you had. this could be a big way to realize that it could be the answer. but i also wouldnt think JKR would tell that many ppl the truth since it would be bound to leak somewhere if she did. w/ all the secruity about the secrets of this i just cant see her telling that many ppl, so it could just be the translaters guessing, but i dunno. just something to think about [right][snapback]102391[/snapback][/right] All I have to say about that is since JK writes the books in English then I see nothing that would indicate her thinking about another language that would come into the picture unless it was a Greek or Latin form. I really think we are trying to look into this too deeply when it's right in front of us. Then again that's just my opinion. 03;) |
|
|
|
May 8 2006, 06:24 AM
Post
#45
|
|
|
Average HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 447 Joined: 27-August 05 From: Canada eh! Member No.: 3,622 |
QUOTE(baty4potter @ May 8 2006, 07:03 AM) All I have to say about that is since JK writes the books in English then I see nothing that would indicate her thinking about another language that would come into the picture unless it was a Greek or Latin form. I really think we are trying to look into this too deeply when it's right in front of us. Then again that's just my opinion. 03;) [right][snapback]102403[/snapback][/right] I agree baty, but things are weird like that. I heard that in the French versions Voldy's middle name is Elvis and they changed his last name so that they could spell out the " I am Lord Voldemort" thing or 'Je suis Lord Voldemort" (i don't know the exact details of it) |
|
|
|
May 8 2006, 02:31 PM
Post
#46
|
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 7-May 06 Member No.: 4,914 |
Its Regulus Black, Sirius's Bro
|
|
|
|
May 8 2006, 09:55 PM
Post
#47
|
|
|
Average HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 2-April 06 Member No.: 4,790 |
I still do believe the most likley choice is Regulus Black...but I think it's always nice too to have different theories than what the majority believes. It's just fun. =D
|
|
|
|
May 16 2006, 04:31 PM
Post
#48
|
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 14 Joined: 20-July 05 Member No.: 2,474 |
its regulas.
in the dutch version its r.a.z zwarts is the dutch version of black. I went to this forum again because i just realised how much i want to read the last part(and not at the same time becouse i don't want it to end) 04:P This post has been edited by baty4potter: May 16 2006, 04:35 PM |
|
|
|
May 16 2006, 04:36 PM
Post
#49
|
|
|
Greatest HP Fan That Ever Lived ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 9,278 Joined: 21-February 04 Member No.: 2 |
QUOTE(Theevillord @ May 16 2006, 04:31 PM) its regulas. in the dutch version its r.a.z zwarts is the dutch version of black. I went to this forum again because i just realised how much i want to read the last part(and not at the same time becouse i don't want it to end) 04:P [right][snapback]102629[/snapback][/right] Welcome to the boards but please spell out all your words |
|
|
|
May 17 2006, 08:13 PM
Post
#50
|
|
|
Average HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 309 Joined: 18-July 05 From: MA,USA Member No.: 2,154 |
QUOTE(Theevillord @ May 16 2006, 05:31 PM) its regulas. in the dutch version its r.a.z zwarts is the dutch version of black. I went to this forum again because i just realised how much i want to read the last part(and not at the same time becouse i don't want it to end) 04:P [right][snapback]102629[/snapback][/right] Thats so interesting, I really think that RAB is regulus and if that's true then that makes it almost certain to me that it is him |
|
|
|
Jun 21 2006, 04:57 AM
Post
#51
|
|
|
Huge HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: News Posters Posts: 1,231 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Australia Member No.: 4,800 |
Well, when I was re-reading the fourth book I came across two separate pages with names that refer to R.A.B. 10:unsure:
In the fourth book on page 461, Sirius is talking to Harry, Ron, and Hermione in the cave where he is hiding. He mentions a few death eaters… Sirius: “Rosier and Wilkes – they were both killed by Aurors the year before Voldemort fell. The Lestranges – they’re a married couple – they’re in Azkaban. Avery – from what I’ve heard he wormed his way out of trouble by saying he’d been acting under the Imperius curse – he’s still at large.” This could mean that Rosier and Avery, could have been part of R.A.B. There could be another person, whose name started with a ‘b’ who took part of destroying the Hocrux. The on page 512, when Harry is in the pensieve, Karkaroff mentions other death eaters… Karkaroff: “Rockwood who was a spy, and passed He Who Must Not Be Named useful information from inside the ministry itself.” Mr. Crouch: “Rockwood? Augustus Rockwood of the Department of Mysteries? This could mean that Augustus Rockwood might have a first name that he doesn’t reveal, or is not revealed in the books, and if his first name started with a ‘r’, then it would fit in to R.A.B. Even though both of these theories are a bit far-fetched, and it is more likely that R.A.B is Regulas Black, it could still happen, because we dont know what JKR will do! 02:D 02:lol: 01:) 04:P |
|
|
|
Jun 21 2006, 08:25 AM
Post
#52
|
|
|
Greatest HP Fan That Ever Lived ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 9,278 Joined: 21-February 04 Member No.: 2 |
Other then the obvious RAB, I think you have given the best explanation of who RAB can be.
|
|
|
|
Jun 22 2006, 02:00 AM
Post
#53
|
|
|
Huge HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,013 Joined: 20-June 06 From: The Shrieking Shack Hogsmede Member No.: 5,046 |
I have re-read book 6 desperatly looking for any other possible RAB's and this is what I came up with;
Obviously Regulas, like most people I believe that it is infact Regulas Black. Rodolphus And Bellatrix or one that not many have rememberd Rabastan And Bellatrix. Either way, Rabastan, Regulas and Rodolphus are all reated, and were all convicted death eaters. ® Adromeda Black, possibly not entirely sure about that one. She was Tonks mother and possibly, like Tonks, is ashamed of her first name. But I'm pretty sure she's alive and was never a Death Eater (the auror office probably runs background checks), So its a bit far fetched. |
|
|
|
Jun 22 2006, 02:26 AM
Post
#54
|
|
|
Huge HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: News Posters Posts: 1,231 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Australia Member No.: 4,800 |
Thanks Baty!!! 02:D 02:lol: 01:) 04:P
|
|
|
|
Jun 22 2006, 09:21 PM
Post
#55
|
|
|
Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 7-May 06 Member No.: 4,916 |
i heard a theory and it made me think too. that the "A" in RAB could mean "and"
just something to think about |
|
|
|
Jul 6 2006, 11:26 AM
Post
#56
|
|
|
Big HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 541 Joined: 14-October 05 From: Indiana, USA Member No.: 3,849 |
QUOTE(ginnyrocks7 @ Jul 28 2005, 01:27 PM) [snapback]77679[/snapback] so who is the mysterious R.A.B?? could it be regulus black??? considering there is a quote in the fith book saying: page 108:a heavy locket which none of them could open. could it be?? a far shot maybe but a possibility I also think that "R.A.B." is Regulus Black. Thinking back through all of the books, Regulus Black is the only character I could think of with the initials R.B. |
|
|
|
Jul 6 2006, 11:41 AM
Post
#57
|
|
|
HP Fan ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 232 Joined: 22-May 05 Member No.: 1,392 |
maybe R.A.B is three different people and nothing to do wwith sirius black?
I know its not them but it could be something like: Ronald Arthur Bill Something like that....... |
|
|
|
Jul 6 2006, 09:40 PM
Post
#58
|
|
|
Average HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 2-April 06 Member No.: 4,790 |
Regulus is the only logical explanation so FAR. I say this because I think that Regulus could have brought along Kreacher and in the boat to cross the water, Kreacher's magic would not have been counted, only Regulus's. If it were a few death eaters there would have been no way that they could have all crossed in the same boat.
There are a few things that I wonder though. How did Regulus know about the horcruxes? How did he stumble upon them, and how did he know about the magic that protected them? I doubt that Voldemort would have told any of the Death Eaters about his horcruxes because he trusts no one. Also, I wonder if Regulus did steal it, why did he keep in the Black house with a family who so willingly supports Voldemort and the strength of purebloods. The only thing I can guess is that Regulus died on his way back from collecting the locket and told kreacher to take the locket back and protect it and it got mixed up in other things when Sirius was cleaning the house. |
|
|
|
Jul 7 2006, 04:05 AM
Post
#59
|
|
|
Huge HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,013 Joined: 20-June 06 From: The Shrieking Shack Hogsmede Member No.: 5,046 |
The horocrux, the locket horocrux, had Slytherin's mark on it didn't it? I would have thought, that whilst examing the locket in Grimmauld Place (or trying to open) they would have noticed this mark? Unless, its been someway hidden by regulas (the mark that is) so it's harder for Voldy to track down...
|
|
|
|
Jul 7 2006, 03:43 PM
Post
#60
|
|
|
Average HP Fan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 256 Joined: 2-April 06 Member No.: 4,790 |
I think they might have been a little too distracted to notice the mark, and also the black family is connected with the slytherin side, so it wouldn't be unusual in Sirius's mind to find something like that in his house. At least so I think.
|
|
|
|
![]() ![]() |
| Lo-Fi Version | Time is now: 18th May 2013 - 02:04 pm |