Snape, **SPOILERS??** Options

[moose]

After re-reading the GoF I have found some very interesting hints as to why Snape is acting with the Order, not the Death-Eaters.


If you look @ pg 651 in GoF it is the scene where Voldemort is talking to the DE's in the graveyard he says 6 are missing. 3 dead, one too cowardly to return (Karkaroff), ONE WHO HE BELIEVES HAS LEFT HIM FOREVER (SNAPE??) that will be killed, and his most faithful servant who is @ Hogwarts and is responsible for Harry being there(crouch).

Then near the end of the book in the hospital wing Dumbledore says this to Snape: "Severus, you know what I must ask you to do. If you are ready....If you are prepared..." Snape says "I am" While looking paler than usual and his cold, black eyes glittering strangely.


It is obvious that Dumbledore wants him to go and act as a double again. In the beggining of HBP Snape tells Lestrange that Voldemort trusts him. Since Snape is so good @ occlumency he might have been able to hide the fact that is really with the Order from him and said that he had been waiting for his return while staying at Hogwarts.



That's why I think Snape is still good.

[Bunnyc]

Dumbledore's hand wasn't getting any better and I think he knew
it was going to kill him.......I think maybe Snape was able to prolong
DD's life (using his 'stopper death' technique) just long enough for DD to find
as much information as possible on the remaining Horcruxes and teach
Harry the importance of searching for and destroying them, and what a dangerous
task it would be.
Does anyone remember JKR saying once that Harry might get another
pet at some later time? I wonder if that will be Fawkes.
Speaking of Fawkes, the reason he didn't heal DD's hand with
his tears, is another reason why I think there was nothing anyone could
do for that hand........that it was fatal and DD knew it.

[stormsteff]

Dumbledore's hand wasn't getting any better and I think he knew
it was going to kill him.......I think maybe Snape was able to prolong
DD's life (using his 'stopper death' technique) just long enough for DD to find
as much information as possible on the remaining Horcruxes and teach
Harry the importance of searching for  and destroying them, and what a dangerous
task it would be.
Does anyone remember JKR saying once that Harry might get another
pet at some later time?  I wonder if that will be Fawkes. 
Speaking of Fawkes, the reason he didn't  heal DD's hand with
his tears, is another reason why I think there was nothing anyone could
do for that hand........that it was fatal and DD knew it.
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Wow -- I LOVE your theory! I just joined the board so I could read some other takes on the book (which I just finished) and this one makes the most sense to me, among the 'Snape is good' musings. I had forgotten about the hand, and it really seemed to have been a big issue in many scenes. It did make it 'look' like Dumbledore might be dying. And I think it's interesting that in the scene in the Cave, we have Dumbledore screaming "KILL ME!" during his delirium. I don't know what that was about, but it might have been more than just crazy talk.

Also, it just ocurred to me that the scene where Harry is shocked when Dumbledore apparantly pleads for his life "Severus -- Severus, please" that he might ACTUALLY be begging Snape to wrap up his life instead, knowing he is going to die anyway, and why blow-off a good undercover agent to have a few weeks/months of extended life?

Okay, I'm convinced. Snape is still with the Order! But who is he reporting to now that everyone thinks he's reverted to type?

[harrypotteraddic...]

Wow -- I LOVE your theory! I just joined the board so I could read some other takes on the book (which I just finished) and this one makes the most sense to me, among the 'Snape is good' musings. I had forgotten about the hand, and it really seemed to have been a big issue in many scenes. It did make it 'look' like Dumbledore might be dying. And I think it's interesting that in the scene in the Cave, we have Dumbledore screaming "KILL ME!" during his delirium. I don't know what that was about, but it might have been more than just crazy talk.

Also, it just ocurred to me that the scene where Harry is shocked when Dumbledore apparantly pleads for his life "Severus -- Severus, please" that he might ACTUALLY be begging Snape to wrap up his life instead, knowing he is going to die anyway, and why blow-off a good undercover agent to have a few weeks/months of extended life?

Okay, I'm convinced. Snape is still with the Order! But who is he reporting to now that everyone thinks he's reverted to type?

i am still not convinced that snape is on the good side.
i mean he could have stalled his death i mean malfoy definetely couldnt kill DD, and DD was doing a great progress in trying t get malfoy to the good side

but there is one idea that was discussed previously in a different topic which was that there is difference in the HPB editions (british and american) in which the american one dumbeldore while trying to cnvince malfoy to come to the good side he says that they can hide malfoy and make it seem like he died they can even hide his mother and his fathe ronce he got out of azkaban
this was not mentioned in the british edition.
and this started a theory that DD was not dead but then came the shocking statement form jk that nobody is coming back form the death.
so they could have faked his death or is it just a mistake in typing?
on the other hand snape has that look of disgust on his face not because he didnt like what he was doing (killing DD) but because he loathed DD