Aug 1 2005, 03:55 PM
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After re-reading the GoF I have found some very interesting hints as to why Snape is acting with the Order, not the Death-Eaters.
If you look @ pg 651 in GoF it is the scene where Voldemort is talking to the DE's in the graveyard he says 6 are missing. 3 dead, one too cowardly to return (Karkaroff), ONE WHO HE BELIEVES HAS LEFT HIM FOREVER (SNAPE??) that will be killed, and his most faithful servant who is @ Hogwarts and is responsible for Harry being there(crouch). Then near the end of the book in the hospital wing Dumbledore says this to Snape: "Severus, you know what I must ask you to do. If you are ready....If you are prepared..." Snape says "I am" While looking paler than usual and his cold, black eyes glittering strangely. It is obvious that Dumbledore wants him to go and act as a double again. In the beggining of HBP Snape tells Lestrange that Voldemort trusts him. Since Snape is so good @ occlumency he might have been able to hide the fact that is really with the Order from him and said that he had been waiting for his return while staying at Hogwarts. That's why I think Snape is still good. |
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Sep 13 2005, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE Ahhh, I was waiting for someone to say something about the phoenix flying out of the fire. Dij will disagree with you that dd is *now* dead. She thinks that was a kinda re-birth. I know when she sees this she'll give us her explanation. LOL! Well, you already know my thoughts about what the phoenix means, Baty. And I know what Dij's thoughts on it are as well. But since no one else here does, and I have yet to see it around, I'll post what I think. On Jo's site, she has said that "Members of the Order use their Patronuses to communicate with each other. They are the only wizards who know how to use their spirit guardians in this way and they have been taught to do so by Dumbledore (he invented this method of communication)." and "Dumbledore's Patronus is indeed a phoenix." DD's Patronus is a Phoenix. Okay, that's clear. But, I noticed the words "spirit guardians" and that really caught my interest. I do believe that it was DD's spirit guardian that we saw leaving the tomb. And between that, and the one instance we are told the pics in the Headperson's office are of the dead headpeople (after DD's death), I do believe he is dead and gone. |
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moose Snape Aug 1 2005, 03:55 PM
cruticus so you believe that Snape is still on DD's sid... Aug 2 2005, 02:37 AM
OmegaprimeVKM
Its possible, but judging by everyone's reac... Aug 2 2005, 09:41 AM
WickedWitchOfTheWest
Ah, but I differ in my opinion of that particula... Aug 2 2005, 11:35 AM
Dobian I think Snape is indeed with the Order, and that w... Aug 2 2005, 03:29 PM
hpfan69 QUOTE(WickedWitchOfTheWest @ Aug 2 2005, 11:3... Aug 8 2005, 09:05 AM
WickedWitchOfTheWest QUOTE(hpfan69 @ Aug 8 2005, 09:05 AM)i am rea... Aug 10 2005, 09:04 PM
pixiestyx Ok, I agree that Snape is not with V. DD has an i... Aug 2 2005, 04:52 PM
Dobian Another thing to notice is how during HBP Harry tr... Aug 2 2005, 05:32 PM
Bunnyc On page 34 Uk edition, Snape says: "Yes, the ... Aug 2 2005, 07:10 PM
Etta I'm definately holding with you, Dobian.
In a... Aug 2 2005, 08:19 PM
Samiam164 I agree with dobian I really noticed the part wher... Aug 4 2005, 12:31 AM
Samiam164 oh one more thing though
i don't think snape... Aug 4 2005, 12:34 AM
Samiam164 YOU know what though, if snape is still on our sid... Aug 4 2005, 02:39 PM
hpfan69 QUOTE(Samiam164 @ Aug 4 2005, 02:39 PM)YOU kn... Aug 5 2005, 10:48 AM
baty4potter QUOTE(hpfan69 @ Aug 5 2005, 11:48 AM)well, tr... Aug 5 2005, 05:41 PM

Dobian QUOTE(baty4potter @ Aug 5 2005, 03:41 PM)For ... Aug 5 2005, 08:49 PM
Walkyrie QUOTE(hpfan69 @ Aug 5 2005, 10:48 AM)well, tr... Aug 26 2005, 04:13 PM
spork I know there's all this proof that Snape is go... Aug 5 2005, 10:32 PM
cruticus QUOTE(spork @ Aug 6 2005, 02:32 PM)I know the... Aug 6 2005, 05:59 PM
Bunnyc Dumbledore's hand wasn't getting any bette... Aug 6 2005, 07:11 PM
teelbee I also think Snape is on the good side. I'm j... Aug 7 2005, 02:53 AM

Dobian The book was likely Snape's mother's, whic... Aug 7 2005, 11:55 AM

hpfan69 QUOTE(Dobian @ Aug 7 2005, 11:55 AM)The book ... Aug 8 2005, 09:01 AM


stormsteff QUOTE(hpfan69 @ Aug 8 2005, 11:01 AM)i am sor... Aug 9 2005, 02:13 PM


hpfan69 QUOTE(stormsteff @ Aug 9 2005, 02:13 PM)Me an... Aug 10 2005, 12:13 PM

MitchHorn36 snape is still good...no question...there are many... Aug 25 2005, 07:59 PM
stormsteff QUOTE(Bunnyc @ Aug 6 2005, 09:11 PM)Dumbledor... Aug 9 2005, 02:30 PM
harrypotteraddict{liza} QUOTE(stormsteff @ Aug 9 2005, 11:30 PM) ... Jan 24 2007, 02:16 PM
baty4potter QUOTE(harrypotteraddict{liza} @ Jan 24 2007, ... Jan 24 2007, 06:38 PM
cruticus QUOTE(hpfan69 @ Aug 9 2005, 01:05 AM)i am rea... Aug 9 2005, 12:37 AM
hpfan69 QUOTE(cruticus @ Aug 9 2005, 12:37 AM)ooo, no... Aug 9 2005, 07:53 AM
hpfan69 so when is his birthday? hagrids.
and i did the ... Aug 11 2005, 07:50 AM
WickedWitchOfTheWest Hagrid's birthday is December 6th by my notes. Aug 11 2005, 05:01 PM
hpfan69 QUOTE more evidence for the good snape....that mis... Aug 26 2005, 07:39 AM
mollyweasley MitchHorn36... I agree with all your evidence to s... Aug 26 2005, 08:37 AM
hpfan69 yes, i am going to get to that chapter one day. ri... Aug 27 2005, 03:00 PM
Wizard From Aus I dont think Dumbledore is dead.
Snape made a bin... Sep 1 2005, 12:03 AM
baty4potter QUOTE(Wizard From Aus @ Sep 1 2005, 01:03 AM)... Sep 1 2005, 05:46 AM
Wizard From Aus RE: Snape Sep 1 2005, 05:49 AM
hpfan69 so baty you think that dd is not dead?
i do belei... Sep 1 2005, 06:31 PM
Wizard From Aus QUOTE(hpfan69 @ Sep 2 2005, 08:31 AM)so baty ... Sep 1 2005, 08:45 PM
baty4potter QUOTE(hpfan69 @ Sep 1 2005, 07:31 PM)so baty ... Sep 2 2005, 05:47 AM
baty4potter QUOTE(hpfan69 @ Sep 1 2005, 07:31 PM)so baty ... Sep 13 2005, 04:01 PM
doctorapk Although I am a strong proponent/apostle of the ... Sep 1 2005, 09:17 PM
cruticus and i'm with baty on this one. Yes there is so... Sep 2 2005, 07:35 PM
hpfan69 yet again i must re-read the book soon. i am in th... Sep 2 2005, 08:11 PM
SEVERUS-SNAPE Imagine if this was all planned by JK, to get us a... Sep 13 2005, 09:25 AM
Wizard From Aus QUOTE(SEVERUS-SNAPE @ Sep 13 2005, 11:25... Sep 13 2005, 09:53 AM
WickedWitchOfTheWest QUOTE(Wizard From Aus @ Sep 13 2005, 09:53 AM... Sep 13 2005, 04:13 PM
baty4potter QUOTE(WickedWitchOfTheWest @ Sep 13 2005, 05:... Sep 13 2005, 04:23 PM
gazbo-s QUOTE(WickedWitchOfTheWest @ Sep 13 2005, 10:... Sep 14 2005, 05:42 AM
doctorapk I don't think Snape will kill Harry...I DO thi... Sep 13 2005, 03:10 PM
WickedWitchOfTheWest Well yes Baty, and I agree with you. If you're... Sep 13 2005, 04:34 PM
baty4potter QUOTE(WickedWitchOfTheWest @ Sep 13 2005, 05:... Sep 13 2005, 04:41 PM
baty4potter WWW, I will mark that on my calendar what you have... Sep 13 2005, 05:20 PM
Bunnyc Don't forget that JKR herself said that she wa... Sep 13 2005, 05:50 PM
baty4potter QUOTE(Bunnyc @ Sep 13 2005, 06:50 PM)Don... Sep 13 2005, 06:06 PM
SEVERUS-SNAPE Do you guys think that Snape might overshadow Harr... Sep 14 2005, 02:24 AM
WickedWitchOfTheWest In my own opinion, yes, she does count. The school... Sep 15 2005, 10:20 AM
Hermione@11 It's possible that Snape's already dead an... Sep 17 2005, 05:55 PM
mischief managed of course voldemort wasnt impersonating snape... i... Jul 21 2006, 05:17 PM
Hermione@11 By "Occlumens" do you mean Legilimens? ... Jul 31 2006, 08:53 PM
Dustin I believe snape is good. I cant really explain ful... Dec 7 2006, 11:32 AM
the_prisoner_of_azkaban Well I hate to say this again, but on this thread ... Dec 8 2006, 02:11 AM
My Pensieve QUOTE(the_prisoner_of_azkaban @ Dec 8 2006, 0... Dec 8 2006, 07:03 AM
Hermione@12 I also think Snape is "bad". He's a... Dec 8 2006, 08:18 PM
enara QUOTE
i believe the reason snape killed dumbledore... Dec 27 2006, 02:02 AM
My Pensieve How I interpret Harry killing Voldemort (in the wi... Dec 27 2006, 07:11 AM
Hermione@12 Snape wanted to kill DD. That's the only reaso... Dec 27 2006, 09:09 PM
enara Oh I never said bad!, Nonono. That is the last... Dec 27 2006, 10:49 PM
mollymalone101 I believe Snape is still on the good side.
Firstly... Dec 29 2006, 04:45 PM
enara But no one is perfect, even Dumbledor said that ab... Dec 29 2006, 05:24 PM
Hermione@12 I think that it's possible that Snape is trick... Dec 29 2006, 05:47 PM
mollymalone101 I guess we'll just have to see. It just seems ... Dec 29 2006, 09:09 PM
potionsmaster As for murder--I don't believe Snape (or shoul... Jan 5 2007, 08:37 PM
baty4potter It is all a matter of perception and opinion about... Jan 6 2007, 09:09 AM
Hermione@12 PM, you still believe Snape is "good"?... Jan 6 2007, 07:48 PM
My Pensieve QUOTE(Hermione@12 @ Jan 6 2007, 08:48 PM)... Jan 7 2007, 09:32 AM
Ramilda I am also in the "Snape is on the good side... Jan 6 2007, 11:02 PM
harry4ginny_ron4hermione QUOTE(Ramilda @ Jan 7 2007, 04:02 PM) 120... Jan 7 2007, 02:32 AM
potionsmaster I agree with PM (not meaning myself )--there is ... Jan 7 2007, 09:23 PM
baty4potter Since Dumbledore's death I've given Snape ... Jan 8 2007, 07:02 PM
iareaj QUOTE(baty4potter @ Jan 8 2007, 07:02 PM)... Jan 25 2007, 04:23 PM
baty4potter It's going to be Interesting how this plays ou... Jan 25 2007, 05:07 PM
Hermione@12 I think that Snape is just plain evil! He com... Jan 25 2007, 09:31 PM![]() ![]() |
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