Aug 7 2005, 03:46 AM
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Many people think that snape is evil for killing dumblebore...but i feel it is all part of the plan. Snape mede the unbreakable vow, promising to help draco succeed in killing DD. I think he did this because he did not want malafoy ot die. But,....I think tha DD knew the whole time that Malafoy had to kill him or else he would die. I mean as much as a powerful wizard as he was, DD knew what malafo was up too. He knew that if Malafoy did not kill himhe and snape would die.
On top of the tower DD, should have easily ben able to control Malafoy when he was alone, and when snape arrived, i think that because of his skill in occlumency, he forced DD to beg for his life, i mean DD would never do that in any situation, he is much more wiser and noble of a man to allow this. So DD being such a modest wizard, and a "Loving wizard would give his life for Snape and Malafoy. As you all read Malafoy did not "really want ot destory DD, for wich he lowered his wand. there for showing he would have to kill DD only to protect his life. DD knew this and would rather give his life for malafoy and snape to live (what a great man). So i feel that DD knew everything and felt it more important to have a man (snape) on the inside to help destroy Voldermort than have him self live and two "good" people die. Another example to show this is that snape had the opportunity to kill harry in the yard of hogwarts nd did not, Maybe this was because of the prophecy thatvoldermort was to kill harry, but in anycase he would of at least tried to hurt harry, or put him into immense pain. But instead he tried to "help" of give advise to harry by saying "again and again potter until you learn to keep your mouth shut and close your mind" which signafies him trying to teach or inform harry how to properly fight or preform spells. I feel snape was trying to help harry, and shows that he want harry to learn, otherwise he would not have given such a tio to harry. So all in all, i fel snape remains loyal to DD, and harry will find this out later. I think that harry will learn the true goodness and loyalty of snape through the "Headmasters prtrait of DD in his old office." I still think that harry will recieve information from DD to come in the future from this portait. Which will help destroy Voldermort in the end. SNAPE REMAINS LOYAL TO DUMBLEDORE!!!! TRUST DD and SNAPE!!!! |
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Apr 4 2006, 08:17 PM
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When I first got HBP, I read through the titles of the of the chapters, and I knew it would be Dumbledore who died, and after thinking about it a bit, I thought it would be Snape who would kill him. But I was still unsure about who was the HBP because for most of the book I was convinced it was Lily (And actually I still have thoughts that Snape might have copied some of her work, or she wrote some of the things inside his book, but that's another subject). And I was shocked when I thought it would be Snape to kill him, but it really made sense, because if Dumbledore did die, then Harry would need some kind of help from another adult. And the best way to help Harry is to get inside information, and since Snape was a Death Eater, it all fits. The thing is though, I trust Dumbledore's judgement, and even after knowing Snape was the one who had killed Dumbledore, I still trust him. Because Dumbledore trusts him. Yes, Dumbledore has admitted being wrong in the past but, I think deep down there is a good side to Snape. Remember Dumbledore never trusted Riddle. Even though that distrust started at a young age...it never faltered. And he kept that distrust even when everyone else loved Riddle. Remember that.
No matter how much Snape loathes Harry, he has never intentionally let harm come his way. And Harry is obviously the weaker of the two, so why, when Snape was fleeing, did he not also kill Harry? Maybe it was orders from Voldemort to leave Harry for him, but then why would Snape still try to teach Harry? Why would he yell at him for not learning how to properly cast spells without talking? Snape wouldn't have to kill Harry, but he could have injured him enough. This isn't to say I think Snape doesn't hate Harry, because I think he does, and I think he treats Harry the way that he does as a way to get back at James. And Snape sticks up for Draco because Snape was Draco at that age. Just like James was Harry. Harry gets all of the recognition and Draco is shunned to the side. This is why Snape hates Harry so much because he doesn't think he deserves the recognition he gets, but I still refuse to believe that Snape would ever purposely let harm come Harry's way. It can be argued from the other side that maybe Snape never drifted back to the dark side before because he never thought it was worth it until HBP when he knew Voldemort was stronger and had more followers. And that could be true, but I think Snape had to suffer a lot to get back in with Voldemort. Voldemort would have known that being that close to Dumbledore might have changed Snape, and he could have questioned why it took him so long to return, which would have put Snape low on the snake list. Snape's helping Malfoy and finally being the one to kill Dumbledore, in Snape's mind, would have brought him higher up that scale. But I think when news reaches Voldemort about Dumbledore's death, Snape is going to have some explaining to do, because how could Snape kill the most powerful wizard in the world-the only one Voldemort ever feared? Snape will have to tell Voldemort how weak Dumbledore was, etc, or else I am sure Voldemort will have plenty suspicions. Snape has a bad past, but I think the most important thing to remember is that Dumbledore trusts Snape for some reason, though we don't know what it is. Maybe it could be an unbreakable vow between the two of them, or something painful happened to cause this intense trust, but what matters is, is that it is there, and I trust Dumbledore to a t. Wow, I'm sorry that's so long. Haha. |
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whitehope123 Snape....Good or Bad????? Aug 7 2005, 03:46 AM
Dan_D_Lion Yea, I don't really think that Snape is evil e... Aug 7 2005, 06:55 AM
chris_1988 DD was just so sure.
There MUST have been a reason... Aug 7 2005, 07:00 AM
GinnyPotter QUOTE(chris_1988 @ Aug 7 2005, 07:00 AM)DD wa... Aug 28 2005, 08:09 AM
pdizzle101 I definitely agree that snape is still good. He ma... Aug 9 2005, 06:01 PM
shortbottom J.K. does give a lot of hints that Snape is good, ... Aug 27 2005, 11:12 PM
mud_blood QUOTE(shortbottom @ Aug 27 2005, 11:12 PM)J.K... Apr 2 2006, 01:51 PM
SEVERUS-SNAPE There is no doubt in my mind that Snape will event... Sep 11 2005, 09:39 AM
baty4potter QUOTE(SEVERUS-SNAPE @ Sep 11 2005, 10:39... Sep 11 2005, 03:22 PM
tealinkea I think there's still a chance of Snape being ... Sep 12 2005, 06:06 AM
Known2Charm QUOTE(shortbottom @ Aug 28 2005, 12:12 AM)J.K... Sep 12 2005, 02:42 PM
mud_blood QUOTE(Known2Charm @ Sep 12 2005, 02:42 PM)Lik... Apr 2 2006, 02:04 PM
msricenbeans sorry...picked wrong quote...i would like to respo... Feb 18 2007, 12:45 AM
GinnyPotter Uh-huh. To discredit his wisdom during his last mo... Sep 15 2005, 01:16 PM
doctorapk I think Snape will DEFINITELY redeeem himself in B... Sep 15 2005, 02:06 PM
Hermione@11 I belive in the explaination in the beginning of t... Sep 15 2005, 08:25 PM
Dementor_Kiss QUOTE(Hermione@11 @ Sep 15 2005, 08:25 PM)I b... Dec 29 2005, 09:42 PM
lisakristine I don't know if Snape is evil or not. But if ... Oct 8 2005, 12:32 AM
mud_blood QUOTE(lisakristine @ Oct 8 2005, 12:32 AM)I d... Apr 2 2006, 02:14 PM
marvolo originally, after reading the book i believed snap... Oct 21 2005, 12:40 AM
Fr3ak I certainly think Snape is evil. Anyone who has su... Oct 21 2005, 06:09 AM
HPotter365 i son't know i still think there is something ... Oct 21 2005, 06:05 PM
baty4potter QUOTE(HPotter365 @ Oct 21 2005, 07:05 PM)... Oct 21 2005, 06:36 PM
hphd501 Snape is BAD BAD BAD BAD! How dare he kill Dum... Oct 24 2005, 03:41 PM
SiriusBlack I mean as much as a powerful wizard as he was, DD ... Nov 11 2005, 12:34 AM
chosen_one im not sure if this has already been mentioned her... Nov 27 2005, 02:52 PM
Minerva I have been trying and trying to figure out the wh... Nov 27 2005, 09:36 PM
lifeoftheparty I have no reason to believe that he is evili. Actu... Dec 1 2005, 09:34 PM
Hermione@11 I still believe that Harry's has something t... Dec 27 2005, 07:31 PM
mud_blood Yeah.. I'm glad so many people still trust Sna... Apr 2 2006, 01:30 PM
Nina79 mud_blood, please don't make more than one pos... Apr 2 2006, 05:09 PM
baty4potter And mud_blood please spell out all your words. It... Apr 3 2006, 05:03 PM
kittygirl543 Snape is evil. I belive that, and no one can chang... Apr 4 2006, 06:12 PM
mud_blood QUOTE(kittygirl543 @ Apr 4 2006, 06:12 PM)Sna... Apr 5 2006, 11:04 AM
Aphrodite Well, I don't oppose, nor support Snape. There... Apr 13 2006, 09:02 PM
groebuck2 Sorry to move away from the whole R/H, H/G romanti... May 8 2006, 12:23 AM
mud_blood woah groebuck2.. i love your theory! It soun... May 24 2006, 12:50 PM
Perseus_Evans Welcome to the boards!
There are many discu... May 8 2006, 06:15 PM
baty4potter Perseus is very correct, there are a lot of topics... May 24 2006, 03:30 PM
Professor English Snape, in my opinion, will end up being the most i... May 30 2006, 03:38 PM
mr.peter I've thought about Snape's loyalty ever si... Jun 27 2006, 06:32 PM
Potterfreak92 I think Snape is bad and always has been bad. I d... Jul 14 2006, 11:04 AM
whyzdom I think after lots of careful consideration, that ... Oct 15 2006, 11:20 PM
jcognition I think that you guys are all ignoring the fact th... Feb 6 2007, 02:19 PM
Dijares I've been thinking about old Snape lately...
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baty4potter So Dij, does this mean you trust Snape? If so....... Apr 3 2007, 05:49 PM
the_prisoner_of_azkaban QUOTE(baty4potter @ Apr 4 2007, 09:49 AM)... Apr 4 2007, 11:33 PM
Hermione@12 I agree! Snape is pure evil! He's a s... Apr 3 2007, 08:53 PM
Dijares It's just a few things I've been thinking ... Apr 4 2007, 07:05 AM
WickedWitchOfTheWest QUOTEAll it proves, to me, is that Snape was prote... Apr 4 2007, 08:49 AM
baty4potter QUOTE(WickedWitchOfTheWest @ Apr 4 2007, 08... Apr 4 2007, 06:07 PM
Dijares QUOTE(WickedWitchOfTheWest @ Apr 4 2007, 08... Apr 6 2007, 08:21 AM
Hermione@12 I think we all agree that Snape is a selfish, lyin... Apr 4 2007, 07:42 PM
baty4potter Stands up and Applauds the_prisoner_of_azkaban, I ... Apr 5 2007, 05:45 AM
Hermione@12 You sound like Filch, Baty! Hmmm...somehow I c... Apr 5 2007, 04:52 PM
the_prisoner_of_azkaban A little O.T. I'd love to see Neville reall... Apr 6 2007, 06:18 AM
WickedWitchOfTheWest QUOTEBut that said, covering his backside doesn... Apr 6 2007, 11:37 AM
Hermione@12 OT, oh yeah, Umbridge! I forgot about her... Apr 6 2007, 04:13 PM
KatScratch I've been thinking about this over and over si... May 7 2007, 11:01 AM
Hermione@12 Okay, to answer the topic question: he is definite... May 7 2007, 07:38 PM
KatScratch QUOTE(Hermione@12 @ May 7 2007, 07:38 PM)... May 7 2007, 11:12 PM
WickedWitchOfTheWest QUOTE(Hermione@12 @ May 7 2007, 07:38 PM)... May 8 2007, 02:18 PM
enara I'm torn. I want him to be bad because I do li... May 28 2007, 06:10 PM
Hermione@12 I seriously can't imagine a good Snape. I alwa... May 28 2007, 07:44 PM
Harietta Potter "On top of the tower DD, should have easily b... May 29 2007, 02:32 PM
baty4potter First off welcome Harietta Potter, hope you have a... May 29 2007, 03:08 PM
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