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> would you consider snape a bad guy?
maxis.m1028
post Dec 13 2007, 05:11 PM
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Would you consider snape to be bad? He did help Harry and was truly faithful to the order but he was really rude (being the nice way to put it) to harry , sirius, and all of the gryffindors. The part that i remember most is when malfoy tries to curse harry but it hits hermione instead causing her teeth to grow and when harry shows snape he says he sees no difference. EVIL!
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post Mar 5 2008, 06:57 PM
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I've generally been reluctant to add to this thread, since it's no secret that Snape is my favorite character, and though most of my predictions turned out to be wrong, my gut on Snape was pretty close. And no, he still wasn't Harry's long lost uncle Perseus, but that was a fun one.

Anyway, I think FW has taken the discussion to a new level, so here goes.

I think the "tragic hero" label is pretty spot on, when we take the story from an objective perspective.

What's most interesting to me, is that JKR's choice to present nearly the entire series from Harry's point of view made Snape possibly one of the most enigmatic and effective characters ever written (ok... maybe that's an exaggeration, but she definitely managed to create the effect she wanted).

By putting us in Harry's shoes, most of us had problems seeing Snape as a noble character, but also we had problems seeing Harry's flaws in much the same way.

Because we see Harry's motives clearly, his actions, which were often thoughtless, wreckless and selfish, we look past those character flaws. Similarly, with Snape, we had no window into his motivation, so we're much less forgiving. And I think that was her intent.

I sometimes wonder if it would be interesting (fan fiction assignment coming) to try to rewrite the series, following Snape's progress, rather than Harry's. It would be impossible to find an impartial judge, but I wonder if we might see Harry as a bad character until the very end of the Prince's extended Tale... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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- maxis.m1028   would you consider snape a bad guy?   Dec 13 2007, 05:11 PM
- - the_prisoner_of_azkaban   I've said it before and I'll say it again....   Dec 13 2007, 06:25 PM
- - Shannon   I don't know, that's kind of a good questi...   Dec 13 2007, 06:40 PM
- - aopp17   nah, snape isnt bad, hes just a dude tryin to make...   Dec 18 2007, 06:11 PM
- - the_prisoner_of_azkaban   QUOTEIf eh thinks that helping voldemort is right,...   Dec 21 2007, 01:32 AM
- - TheBoyWhoLived   No, for what he did was good in the end ,and i was...   Jan 22 2008, 05:27 PM
|- - crmhpfan   QUOTE(TheBoyWhoLived @ Jan 23 2008, 08:57...   Jan 23 2008, 12:50 AM
- - baty4potter   Snape was mean and vindictive as far as I was conc...   Jan 23 2008, 06:47 AM
|- - crmhpfan   QUOTE(baty4potter @ Jan 23 2008, 10:17 PM...   Jan 23 2008, 06:35 PM
- - the_prisoner_of_azkaban   QUOTEHe never grew out if his hatred for James hen...   Jan 23 2008, 08:29 PM
- - xc coach   I see Snape a little differently from the opinions...   Mar 4 2008, 12:42 AM
|- - crmhpfan   QUOTE(xc coach @ Mar 4 2008, 04:12 PM) 13...   Mar 4 2008, 12:47 AM
- - the_prisoner_of_azkaban   Is it so horrible that I didn't get upset when...   Mar 4 2008, 05:49 AM
|- - baty4potter   QUOTE(the_prisoner_of_azkaban @ Mar 4 2008, 0...   Mar 4 2008, 07:07 AM
- - Fizzing_Whizzbee   Snape is definately a hard person to work feelings...   Mar 5 2008, 12:34 AM
- - Fizzing_Whizzbee   My apologies to the moderators for the consecutive...   Mar 5 2008, 01:08 AM
- - Perseus_Evans   I've generally been reluctant to add to this t...   Mar 5 2008, 06:57 PM
- - baty4potter   Everyone pretty much knows how I felt about Snape;...   Mar 5 2008, 08:18 PM
- - Fizzing_Whizzbee   Well I'm certainly glad that I could bring som...   Mar 6 2008, 12:04 AM
|- - baty4potter   QUOTE(Fizzing_Whizzbee @ Mar 6 2008, 12:0...   Mar 6 2008, 07:03 AM
- - Perseus_Evans   Baty... I wasn't going to point out your chang...   Mar 6 2008, 11:00 AM
|- - baty4potter   QUOTE(Perseus_Evans @ Mar 6 2008, 11:00 A...   Mar 7 2008, 07:08 AM
|- - Grubbly-Plank   QUOTEHe really needed counseling. lol I must sa...   Mar 7 2008, 07:43 AM
|- - baty4potter   QUOTE(baty4potter @ Mar 7 2008, 07:08 AM)...   Mar 8 2008, 12:17 PM
- - the_prisoner_of_azkaban   QUOTEI looked up the requirements for a character ...   Mar 7 2008, 06:58 AM
- - Dijares   This has most definitely become a very interesting...   Mar 7 2008, 01:17 PM
- - Grubbly-Plank   I think that Snapes attitude towards Ron, Hermione...   Mar 8 2008, 04:23 AM
- - Perseus_Evans   I can forgive Snape's treatment of Neville, bu...   Mar 8 2008, 02:37 PM
|- - baty4potter   QUOTE(Perseus_Evans @ Mar 8 2008, 02:37 P...   Mar 9 2008, 11:14 AM
- - Kiara   SPOILERS AHEAD, READ AT YOUR OWN RISK Yes, definit...   Mar 18 2008, 07:21 PM
- - Kane   The thing about Snape, was that all the way throug...   Jun 1 2008, 03:40 PM
- - the_prisoner_of_azkaban   See my problem is it was such an obvious choice to...   Jun 2 2008, 07:34 PM
- - wizard/vampire   Well before I read the Deathly Hallows i hated Sna...   Aug 28 2009, 07:59 PM


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