Tom Marvolo Riddle was the heir of Slytherein. And he is a snake animagus, just as the animal of Slytherein house is.

I expect that all of the founders: Gryffindor, Ravenclaw, Slytherein and Huflepuff, were all animagi of the animals of their houses. After all, they were all very powerful wizards.

Doesn't it make sense that the other three wizards have heirs?

I have a suspision that Harry could be the heir of Gryfindor and by a Lion animagus. It is likely that he will become an animagus of something after all.

This would give The Chamber of Secrets book some significance because of the heir of Slytherein stuff.

And although it might not need disscussing right now, might there be heirs of Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff also?

I'm sure the other founders must have heirs. It'd be quite sad if they didn't. But I don't think they'll come into play because there wasn't as much animosity between the other two like there was between Gryffindor and Slytherin.

Harry as the heir of Gryffindor is a very popular theory. I wouldn't besurprised at all if he is. But i'm sorry to say he is not an Animagus. Never will be. JK said he has too much on his plate to train up for that. I'll find the quote for you.

Found it!

SB: We’re going to take a few more questions, and um, the next one is will Harry ever turn into a shape-changer like his father?

JKR: Animagus. No, Harry’s not in training to be an animagus, and if you’ve read book three, you won’t know – um, that’s a wizard that’s very, very difficult to do. They learn to turn themselves into animals. No, Harry is not, Harry is going to be concentrated elsewhere, he’s not going to have time to do that. He’s got quite a full agenda coming up, poor boy.

fair enough then. but hey, i think he could well be the heir of gryfindor.

do u think doubledore is an animagus? i'd have him pegged as a phoenix. ha, look at that, like my name lol.

I think that the "Harry is going to be an animagus" is the most appealing theory I have heard about but now Jk said he isn't!!!

I rather thought that Griffindor was a grifdfin animagus!! It must be cool to be as powerful as a lion and be able to fly like an eagle!!
I would love it!!!

I don't think Tom riddle was a snake animagus and it would be stupid for Harry and Voldemort to become animagus!! Because I think they both have the ability to possess others bodies!!! They just have to make an animal appear and possess it!!!
I'm going to post a new thread about that theory!!!

The only one he ever feared!!!!

I don't think Tom Riddle was a snake animagus either. I don't ever recall him turning himself into a snake but he could control the basilisk and has a 'pet' snake, Nagini.

ah yes, fair enough. but still, you'd of thought he would have an animagus form....maybe we'll find out

I think theres a possiblity that he could be the heir to both Griffindor and Slytherin
I mean, if rumors turn out to be true about Lily and all

Tom Riddle is not an animagus, however he is able to possess his snakes (Nagini) like when Harry saw Mr. WEasley attacked, at that time V was possessing the snake, he wasn't actually the snake.

It would be cool if Harry were to become an animagus, but if JKR says is isn't going to happen, then, of course, it won't.

I definitely agree that Harry is the heir of Gryffindor, but I also (IMO) think that harry is the Heir of slytherin as well. won't go into much detail here, as I've gone over this one before. It's the eyes, you see.

But...isn't Riddle the heir of slytherein...

Yeah, he is, but Slytherin could have more than one heir.... the only reason i don't think that Harry is the heir of Slytherin is that would be related to Voldy- I know some people think that's true, but i don't think it is.
Anyways, I think its very possible that Harry is the heir of Gryffindor, but i'm not completely sure of this theory.... I'm not exactly for it or against it. So I basically have no opinion.

Many feel Harry is the heir to Gryffindor because he was able to pull Godric's sword out of the sorting hat......but to me, all it proved is that Harry is a 'true Gryffindor' in so much as he truly belongs to Gryffindor House as opposed to the three other Hogwarts Houses.

But remember- Voldemort transferred some of his powers to Harry and they are related in more ways than one...
they share brother wands
they look somewhat alike
theyre both orphans
and anyway, we don't know much about Harrys family/ bloodline

perhaps godric gryffindor and salazar slytherin were related.... Maybe they had a really big "hatfield and mccoy" dispute that caused slytherin to leave

If riddle is heir of slytherin and harry is heir of gryffindor perhaps they are only continuing the dispute that started hundreds of years earlier

yeh thats what i think.

and btw, Rowling has stated on her official website that Harry is NOT related to Voldemort. she also sed don't call him 'voldie' lol.

Dang it..... I like calling him Voldy...... He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named is to long!

eeeh, boys, what does a griffin look like? any pictures?
so jkr says she doesn't like us to call him "voldie"? well, i didn't like her to kill sirius, and she DID it!!!
then...

This is now in the rules - Per JKR (which is now in my rules), Lord Voldemort is not to be referred to as Voldie - Dijares

look a this, jkr!!!

WOW Dijares , you're a BIG Rowling fan.

lol its darkie lord from now on then!

there is a picture of a Griffin....can't remember who asked for it though (and no I didn't draw it)

that's great, thank you theconfuddled1!! Almost like a hippogriff.

Another thought regarding the heir of Gryfindor business:

Lilly, James and Harry Potter had lived at "Godric's Hollow" before Riddle's first downfall. Now...I think that "Godric's Hollow" was the place where Godric Gryfindor had lived. I imagine the house had been lived in by his family for generations. This is why i believe that the Potters are decended from the Gryfindor's. This backs up the theory of Harry James Potter being the heir of Gryfindor.

I think that Thomas Riddle and Harry Potter are continuing the age-old dispute between Salazar Slytherein and Godric Gryfindor. I also believe in the fusion-theory for the end of book seven. The two heirs combined will cause the dispute to be settled at last.

Maybe your theory of them 'fusing' is why JKR says if Harry knew what was in store for him he'd run???

or maybe he'd run because its a nasty thing anyway...

No, we've never been told. Presumably quite a way from Little Whinging, Surry, though. Lol.

I love the theory of the Weasley's being the heirs of Gryffindor. If you think about it, it is logical...why?--
1)red is the Gryffindor color and the Weasley's hair color.
2)JKR has said she disagrees with the belief that the Weasleys are "weasel-y" but rather loyal and brave--hmmm, sounds lionish.
3) all the weasley's were in Gryffindor...what are the odds of that!--I mean we've seen twins that aren't even in the same house.

plus, Ron's a pureblood...we've been told that many times--but he's not stuck up about it like Draco and the other Slytherins...much like that ole rift between Salazar(sp???) and Godric.
JK said book 2 had a ton of clues in it about the future books...and this is all really established in the second book.

**sorry if this has been posted before, but I'm new, and too lazy to search through the older posts...

I have to be organized. Don't tease me.

Evidence Indicating that Harry is the Heir of Gryffindor
- His birthplace: Godric's Hollow.
- When he got his first wand it shot out yellow and gold sparks.
- In CoS he pulled the sword out of the hat.
- His starsign is Leo.
- It'd just make sense, considering Voldemort is the Heir of Slytherin.
- He's in Gryffindor.

And there we are. Personally I don't think it's enough. Are there any more clues in the books?

hi all!

i was reading some of the posts that are on this page and i came across someone saying that there are rumors about lily, what rumors?

is she to be the heir to gryfindor? i don't think that JKR is implying that she is. but if anyone has any evidence to back up tis theory please, do tell me! i am all "eye's".

No, I don't think Lily is heir to Gryffindor. Can't see it.

Hey buddy, go messenger....

hey dij,

i was reading your post and i just gotten off JKR's site, she say's that there is no way that harry is the heir of slytherin. only voldemort is the last heir of slytherin. she did not mention harry as the heir to gryfindor. but that is an intresting theory.

so if lily is the heir of gryfindor, on whos side of the family would it be on? i thought that lily's family were all muggles and it just so happen that lily, like hermonie, had magic in her. so confusing!

Somthing that annoys me is the way people use the word 'heir' wrongly.

for example, people say that if voldmort and harry were related, then this would make harry the heir of slythereien. NO IT WOULDN'T! it would make him a descendat, yes, but he aint neccecairly the HEIR.

so if u say, lilly is the heir of gryfindor so harry is. thats not right. there is ONE heir, from a long line of peopl hu are all descendants but ONE HEIR. and heir is someone hu inherits a legacy or power or money etc. its not just someoe hu is descended.

thats why throught all the line of salazar slytherein, only thomas marvolo riddle was the heir.

i just wish ppl would use the pharse properly.

You are right. For instance, the eldest son of Prince Charles' is the heir to the throne (after his father dies, of course). However, if the eldest son should die, then the youngest son would then be the heir.

So, he is in line (second) for the throne. So, if Harry were related to Slytherin (which JKR has denied on her site), then he would be second in line for becoming the heir to Slytherin.

I think that Harry is the heir of Gryffindor through the Potter side of the family. After all he was able to use the sword of Godric Gryffindor by pulling it from the hat. This has similarities to the King Arthur legend where only the true heir could pull the sword from the stone.
I believe that James Potter gave this sword to Dumbledore for safe keeping at the same time he gave him the invisibility cloak. The invisibility cloak has been a major help to Harry so far. I believe the sword will be in the sixth book, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince.

By the way, the half-blood prince could be the new DADA teacher. I just thought of that one.

Yes, well. The sword was never James Potter's was it, now? it was Godric Gryffindor's and thus Dumbledore's/Sorting Hat's possesion. Why would James give it to DD?

Here's why I think that James had the sword. James was a direct decendant from the long line of Godric Gryffindor. The sword would have been passed down from generation to generation. James was the last heir except for Harry. When he thought his life to be in danger he gave the sword and the invisibility cloak(also originally belonging to Godric) to Dumbledore for safe keeping until Harry would be old enough to use them.-----OR after James was killed, someone knowing their significance gave them to Dumbledore to save for Harry.
Either way, Harry is the heir of Gryffindor through his father's side. This is just a guess but it's a logical one.

I say again that sword his going to play a major part in book six.

Harry being a descendent of gryffindor is probably quite likely given the time span, in fact he probably could count all four Hogwarts founders among his ancestry. Harry pulling the sword out of the hat showed he was a true Gryffindor, but I don't think that it would mean that he's the heir as such and after all I've seen no mention of this mysterious heir in any of the books.

I sincerely hope that Harry doesn't turn out to be the heir of Gryffindor...it's Percy! just kidding...It just seems too obvious, overwrought as well, what we've been expecting, of course it could be why Voldemort marked him as the greater threat from the prophesy...Neville would be nice, iteresting new role- but isn't it something you just sort of know...like how did Voldemort know who he was in order to open the Chamber if he was an orphan...did someone like Lucius tell him? Ron would be good too, making Harry jealous of Ron for being prefect and heir, but only if Ron winds up killed because he's the heir. Or why always guys...maybe Hermione! She can be the heiress of Gryffindor, though it would make more sense for female heiresses to come from the female founder houses...
Maybe the half-blood prince is also heir. This could go on forever. All I know is, it would literally make me sick to see Harry as Head Boy/Prefect, heir, Quidditch Captain, and Auror, or get his parents back. Ick. I'd rather Ron's Erised will come true.

These topics have been merged and are now being pulled out of the Archived Threads.


Hey Guy's.
I reakon harry is the Heir of Griffindor. Why well let's find out.

1. Ever wondered where lilly and James potter got all that money harry inherited in Gringott's?
2. Why Voldermort chose harry to murder instead of Nevil. He thought harry would be more of a threat. Because he was the heir of Griffindor.
3. Why Dumbldor is anxous to keep him at school.
4. Why harry always get's into a fix.

I'll get back to you on it later because i'v forgotton the rest
any other theories dont hesitate to email at Please DO NOT Put Your Personal e-mail On the boards for *anyone* to see.

WATCH OUT FOR THE MUDBLOOD HUNTER

I wonder why someone who is called "mudblood" hunter is concerned about Gryffindor's.

Sorry but I hate that word as much as Hermione does.

The Mudbl**d hunter is just like the people who love Malfoy or Voldemort, so it really is the same, isn't it? Everyone is entitiled to their own ideas/opinions...

Wow, I'm hypocritical!

That's for sure! but it isn't a word for a civilised conversation

Just kidding

NO, m*dbl**d isn't exactly civilized, but it is a made up word!

the only reason the gryffindor sign is a lion is because lions are brave... not becaz gryffindor was an animagus

Hey guys,
so-far, most people have been expecting Harry to be the heir of gryffindor, and like persialestrange said, it's too obvious, but has anyone thought of DD?
I reckon that DD is the heir of gryffindor because he's the most powerfull wizard in the world (xcept maybe Voldy - or Harry, who doesnt realise how powerful he really is ), and the only one that V ever feared. Wouldn't it make sense that the heirs of slytherin n gryffindor were the ones to continue or settle the animosity between the founders? And DD is the only person who has ever been able (besides Harry) to go up against V many times and still live to tell the tales. Plus DD is the greatest wizard of all time, is totally good, and extremely wise, brave and loyal. To me that sounds just like the type of person the heir of gryffindor should be. Plus there isnt anyone else from DD bloodline after DD himself, and unless he was a gryffindors heir, how would he have known about godrics sword in the sorting hat, or how to get it out? and who better to help Harry defeat V, the heir of slytherin, then DD, the heir of gryffindor?

if you think about it Voldemort was the heir of Slytherin so.............

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