SiriusBlack
Mar 26 2006, 06:28 AM
Since the only news we currently have about the OotP opening, it's in the snow mountains.Well,seeing as it's a really hot summer in the 5th book, what's your opinion on why they will(PROBABLY)start the movie with a snow scenery?OK I'm actually here to ask...How would YOU like the movie to open up/start?
WickedWitchOfTheWest
Mar 27 2006, 11:56 AM
I'm betting that that newspaper might have got their facts wrong. I mean, we know the books always open in the summer. So either they were filming the first scene in the snow or they are opening with snow. If they're opening with the snow sequence, I'm betting that it will be Hagrid and Maxime on their way to the giants. I would personally like to see it open with a light theme. Start with the twilight sky, show the HP graphic, pan down to Harry walking down the street towards an alley. He looks down the alley as he turns the corner and sees Dudley and his friends walking and saying good-bye. Dudley's friends leave and Harry catches up with Dudley while taunting him a bit. Suddenly, everything appears to go black. The dementors attack and Harry fights them off. He brings Dudley back to the Dursley's house, then the Owls start to come. Whether they leave in DD's Howler or not is up to them. I don't know if it's going to be relevant to the overall main story they're trying to convey or not. But anyways, that all happens. Harry goes to bed, but hears a noise and goes downstairs to investigate. There he finds the Advance Guard waiting for him. Right before he leaves, Tonks knocks something over, waking up the Dursley's, and they get to watch Harry narrowly escape again before Vernon could properly punish him, infuriating Vernon. That's how I want to see it start. I know I changed some things from the book, but I'm trying to think of a way WB could do it and still make it decent. I mean, I'd love to have it straight from the book, but I know WB better than that.
SiriusBlack
Mar 28 2006, 01:02 AM
Wow WWW.Reading that makes me think of GOF for some reason.I must admit, I really like your way of opening.
WickedWitchOfTheWest
Mar 28 2006, 09:24 AM
Thanks!

Maybe a couple of those things could change a bit, but I want them to keep the general idea. I mean, I don't think they're even going to include how the entire Wizarding world is against Harry and DD since they didn't show Fudge and DD arguing in the Goblet movie. It's a bit of a shame, but understandable since it's all forgotten about in the next book.
chapovalverde
Mar 28 2006, 12:45 PM
I think that OotP film will focus on the first and last parts of the book. The beginning is really important,because they must explain clearly the dementor's attack, the guard coming and quite a bit of Grimmauld Place and the order before the Harry's visit to MoM.
I think WWW got a good approach of the first half an hour of the film, specially if we can see a bit of uncle Vernon's purple face.
However, the central part of the book is where I think they'll make more cuts, so maybe the non-readers may not understand the deep hate students have to Umbridge (although I expect a brilliant acting from Imelda Staunton). But the thing is that with the two important visits to Hogsmade (Harry/Cho and meeting at Hog's head), a brief look of Harry's detention and a few more things like quidditch match against Slytherin or Mr Weasley's attack, there'll be only space for the final battle.
From the basis that they'll make a 3 hour film I'm confident they won't skip many important things
WickedWitchOfTheWest
Mar 29 2006, 10:15 AM
They could probably cram it all into ten minutes, depending on what they feel is important. Will they leave in DD's Howler? Will Petunia mention what she knows of the Dementors? Will they feel that Mrs. Figg needs to be there, or will they be able to have Harry get off the charges without her testimony? That is, if they even leave in the hearing. I really don't find it is all that necessary for the films (again looking at it from a WB POV) since he gets off anyway. Just like it isn't really necessary to put in how the wizarding world feels about Harry and DD's story since they completely change their ways by the end. But, judging on what was said by DD at Cedric's funeral in GOF, they might leave it in. It just all depends which is frustrating cause we just don't know what WB feels is necessary. To me, the things that are necessary are the Dementor attack, Grimmauld Place (I would think it has to be for WB as well since there may be a Horcrux there) and the Order, the D.A. at least once with a kiss between Harry and Cho, Mr. Weasley's attack, at least one Occlumency lesson (the one with Snape's memory obviously), Harry's interview with Rita, DD's leaving, the Astronomy O.W.L., Harry's visions and most definitely the happenings down in the DOM. I may be forgetting something important, so please forgive me for that. But, I feel that they could get all this done in about 2-2.5 hours. Which is perfect for them. But there are quite a few things more that they might put in because it is important like Harry's trial, the feelings of everybody toward Harry and DD, more exposure to members of the Order, more D.A. lessons, more detentions, more lessons with Snape, and more time with Sirius. But overall, what I really want to see are the Dementor attack, Grimmauld Place, Extendable Ears, (maybe) the Hearing, Skiving Snackboxes being used, Fred and George's exit, the fight at the Quidditch match and Harry's subsequent banning, the D.A., DD's leaving, Mr. Weasley's attack, Occlumency lessons, Harry's interview, the Astronomy O.W.L., Harry's visions, and I want the most time devoted to the Ministry and the DOM. I want that done right. If they skimp on that I will be very unhappy. I want to have the DE's there sneaking up on Harry when he picks up the Prophecy. I want the chase scene between the kids and the DE's. I want Harry cornered. I want the Order to come to the rescue. I want the Order and the DE's to battle. I want DD to arrive. I want Harry to rush after Bellatrix after Sirius falls through the veil. I want Harry and Bellatrix to duel. I want V. to show up. I want DD to show up in the Atrium without V. realizing it and make the statues move, especially the one that protects Harry when V. says AK. I want DD and V. to duel. I want it all and I want it done right. Greedy? Perhaps! But I don't care. I'm willing to sacrifice some things as long as that is done the right way.
baty4potter
Mar 29 2006, 06:11 PM
WickedWitchOfTheWest
Mar 29 2006, 06:37 PM
Not really. It was pretty much just typing out my thoughts as they came.
baty4potter
Mar 30 2006, 06:36 AM
QUOTE(WickedWitchOfTheWest @ Mar 29 2006, 06:37 PM)
Not really. It was pretty much just typing out my thoughts as they came.

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And some excellent thoughts they were, but remember to breath deeply once in awhile; I don't want you to hyperventilate.
WickedWitchOfTheWest
Mar 30 2006, 09:26 AM
No comment.
Okay, back to the topic.
srivathsan
Mar 30 2006, 10:03 AM
LOL You have NO idea how much I laughed while reading that post of yours WWW! And I agree with most of what you have said...but I don't think the interview is gonna be in the movie, since Miranda Richardson is not returning for OOTP. Unless they have Luna herself take the interview or something...or Hermione writing it down and handing it over to Luna or something, I don't know how they'll squeeze in the interview. But the interview and its consequences are among the BEST of Jo's works...sadly, I don't think it will make the movies.
WickedWitchOfTheWest
Mar 30 2006, 10:26 AM
She isn't coming back? Okay then. I don't follow that stuff as well as you do, Sriv.

Okay, so scratch the interview. Bummer! I love it and its consequences too. Oh well! So, without the interview, I still really don't see any need for WB to put in the feelings of most that DD and Harry are lying. Personally I don't think they will. They might leave in a detention and the reason Harry is in it as a little tribute to it, but make it seem as though it is just Umbridge's feelings rather than mostly everybody's. But is there really even a need for that? Or I should say, does WB feel that there is a need for that? Do they feel that the Quidditch match needs to be in there? I don't think so. Yes, Harry gets banned, but he's back on again in HBP. Fred and George get banned and their brooms confiscated, and yes, they do use their brooms to leave, but will WB show that? If they do, then they'll have to show the Quidditch match, won't they? Unless they get taken for another reason. Or they can just save themselves the trouble of it all and completely cut out the detentions, the Quidditch match, the parting of the twins, and the feelings of the majority of the wizarding world and just stick to the main plot like they always do. Which is, of course, what I think they will do. It's been talked over before about how much of OOTP is sacrificable in WB's view and it is quite a bit. Unfortunately, a lot of it is the fun stuff.
iareaj
Apr 19 2006, 02:17 PM
mmm, i'd like it to open with harry's dreams about cedric, then the dream should change abruptly (as dreams always do) to the corridor in the dept. of misteries, harry running and knocking on the closed door, then, the big "harry Potter and the order of the phoenix", and harry walking and meeting his cousin dudley.
now, why do i think that is important to open with the dream? because all the people will be paying the biggest attention you can ask, and that dream in the corridors is important, they should show it each time they can...
Bellezza
Apr 19 2006, 03:30 PM
I agree with everything that WWW has said though one thing I would LOVE to see but I doubt I will is the confrontation between McGonagall and Umbridge. That was the funniest part in OotP in my opinion; that and the twin's departure. Who knows. But I like the beginning that WWW has mapped out and maybe when he is dreaming and get awoken he'll dream the corridor scene...that way it all fits and he wakes abruptly. Other than that, it seems great.
twestann
May 2 2006, 06:25 PM
I'm always surprised that they do as well as they do when translating these books into movies. I guess the only way they could include everything is to do a tv mini series.Who knows maybe they will someday.
I guess I think it should begin with Harry and Dudley being attacked by dementors. I really don't see how you could avoid that. As to the rest, I agree with WWW's assessment of what's necessary.
My fear is that they will exclude some of the characters. I would certainly be disappointed without a Luna Lovegood.
Does anyone know when this movie will be out? I haven't heard a thing about it.
Bellezza
May 2 2006, 10:28 PM
They've cast Luna's part...so I don't think they'll be leaving her out at this point. And I have heard that it should be out in July of 2007.
harrypotter11
Jun 27 2006, 09:30 AM
All I would like to say is the movie will be longer than GOF,and they will show a long Pensieve scene during the Occlumeny lesson.I haven't read this book in about five months, so I don't remember much.And WWW,I don't recomend you ever use Fast Reply like I am!
Potterfreak92
Jul 13 2006, 01:39 PM
I think OotP should start where the Dursleys are watching the news, and Harry says, "Well
that's news to me." That's one of my favorite parts. After that, it should go to where the dementors attack Harry and Dudley.
Hermione@13
Jul 30 2006, 07:06 PM
Ok, I personally would love to see it happen exactly like the books, but I'm sure that won't happen.

Anyway, what I think they might do is Harry walking home and then Dudley says bye to his friends, Harry walks up to him taunting him, and then everything goes dark and the dementors come!
Irmafan
Aug 8 2006, 04:12 AM
I agree with WWW!!! But guys, when is the fifth movie coming to the cinema's???????? I need an answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nina79
Aug 8 2006, 04:57 AM
QUOTE(Irmafan @ Aug 8 2006, 11:12 AM) [snapback]106957[/snapback]
I agree with WWW!!! But guys, when is the fifth movie coming to the cinema's???????? I need an answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's coming out next year, more exactly on 13th July. You can check it out
here.
carebear139612
Aug 8 2006, 06:20 PM
yeah, people are counting down hours, minutes and seconds.
dobbyman
Aug 22 2006, 04:58 PM
I would like the movie to open with a small bit of Maxime and Hagrid's trip (maybe 5-10 minutes tops) and then zoom down on Harry in the summer chilling (or rather roasting) outside the window. I think doing a small part of Maxime and Hagrid's trip would REALLY help later on when Hagrid comes back explainin everything. It would move things along and it would open on a SWEEEET beginning. But whatever... thoughts? Thanks
Nina!! haha! I'm sorry, your name just reminded me of that old show third Rock From the Sun because the secretary name was named Nina!! NM that was random and not at all having to do with HP. But I'll type somethin about HP because that's the topics...DUH.
I will want to strangle WB if they don't put dementors in at the beginning, because that's so important (not to mention cool) because that means they're REALLY EVIL!!! And they are so... yeah so watch out WB
But they obviously are because they had that picture of Dan and Dudley running so what else would they be filming. Well thanks, sorry if I wasted your time
Please spell out ALL your words! Thanks...
Hermione@13
Aug 22 2006, 05:49 PM
I don't think they will start it with Hagrid's trip because that wasn't in the book, unless they make Hagrid's explaination to where he's been REALLY short.

I think they won't include the Big D thing. Maybe they'll just show Harry walking behind Dudley and then the whole Dementor scene. Maybe they won't even include Mrs. Figg.
baty4potter
Aug 22 2006, 07:50 PM
Hermione11 it isn't about what you think, it's what dobbyman would like to see happen. Please be respectful of what someone would like to happen. We all have our opinions on how we'd like to see it open.
Instead of being negative and telling someone you don't think how about just saying who you'd like to see it and leave it at that.
Keep in mind that the title is... 'How would you like the movie to open?' Now what you *think* will happen!!!
dobbyman
Aug 26 2006, 01:25 PM
Sorry I didn't spell out all my words... just trying to save myself typing much

now i know, thanks!!
cruticus
Aug 26 2006, 08:32 PM
QUOTE(dobbyman @ Aug 27 2006, 05:25 AM) [snapback]108321[/snapback]
Sorry I didn't spell out all my words... just trying to save myself typing much

now i know, thanks!!
Trying to save yourself from typing much will result in foreigners not being able to decipher what you wrote and then work from the mods to adjust your post. So PLEASE spell all words out!
Cheers,
Cruticus
dobbyman
Aug 28 2006, 04:09 PM
In my oppinion, the dementors are one of the COOLEST of all the creatures JKR created. So, if they don't have that bit in the film...then i will be mad

but whatever, i'll soon get over it and be happy with the film pretty much. But I think they would have the dementors in there... wouldn't they? Oh and the dementors are going to be WAY better at the rate our special effects technology is moving. CHEERIO!!
I hope everyone can understand that! Thanks!!
Zola231
Aug 31 2006, 10:32 AM
All the movies have started at night, so i think it will continue. Maybe The dursleys going to the fake garden competition.
Dijares
Sep 1 2006, 08:49 PM
If it starts with the Dudley demented thing, when seeing the photos of the set, it was day time. But that doesn't mean that special effects won't make it so that it can look like it's night.
dobbyman
Sep 3 2006, 12:19 PM
Yes, I noticed that the pictures were during the day as well. But they will likely change it to night time using special effects as you said. They did that in the first Lord of the Rings at Bilbo's birthday party. It was all filmed in daylight, but they changed it to night. I'm just hoping for a really cool opening that will show how evil those dementors are (HAHA I LOVE DEMENTORS!)
Hermione@13
Sep 3 2006, 07:27 PM
The only thing I hope that's reasonable is for the director to not pull an Alfonso on us!

I'm still angry at what he did to the greatest book of all time! Anyway, the starting, I think that it should start like the books, but what are the chances of that? I have a feeling it's going to start at night and I have no reason why, but hopefully they include every main thing that happened. I think they will start with Harry walking behind Dudley.
WickedWitchOfTheWest
Sep 3 2006, 07:32 PM
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The only thing I hope that's reasonable is for the director to not pull an Alfonso on us! I'm still angry at what he did to the greatest book of all time!
There is something that you've gotta realize. Now, as much as I can't stand Alfonso and what he did to POA, you've gotta expect a lot to be clipped from OOTP. You just have to! It's a book that is almost 900 pages long. Changes are going to have to be made and things are most definitely going to have to be cut. The sooner you accept that, that happier you'll be with the film when it does come.
snapes_girl
Sep 7 2006, 08:44 AM
I hope the movie begins with the dementor attack on Dudley. Then Harry going to the ministry of magic for his hearing may sum up all the doubt that the ministry has that Harry and Dumbledore are telling the truth. These were, I believe very important keys to the rest of the book. Harry being shunned by the students again and it would explain why he and Umbridge really don't like eachother.
Zola231
Oct 15 2006, 03:52 PM
This is how I think the Harry Potter and the Order of Phoenix movie will start:
The word “Harry Potter and the Order of Phoenix” will be shown on the screen. The Harry Potter theme will also be on. The background will have a very dark sky, with the stars twinkling brightly. The camera will then zoom into the middle of the title, and there will be a snowy white scene with mountains. There we will see Rubeus Hagrid with Olympe Madame Maxime sitting down with a camp fire in-between them. The camera will be very far away from them. Once the fire is burnt out (five seconds later), the camera will dissolve from the snowy scene.
We will return with the camera looking over hundreds of streets. It will be very dark and the camera will zoom into number 4 privet drive. At this point we will here Uncle Vernon ordering Harry Potter not to leave his room, while they were at the fake Garden Competition. All three Dursley’s suddenly drive away, with only Harry’s bedroom light on.
Then the story continues…………
Hermione@13
Oct 15 2006, 04:22 PM
I don't think it will start with Hagrid and Olympe just because that's not in the book.

I think it will start with Harry walking home.
Nina79
Oct 16 2006, 05:00 PM
You never know... Hagrid and Olympe are up in the mountains before Harry meets the dementors...

Even though that it isn't being told until Hagrid tells about the journey to the trio.
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