In the Half Blood Prince when we found out what Snape really is, and who he is working with, it was a shock to us. Do you think there could be another person like Snape, who is working on Lord Voldemorts side and is pretending to be on the good side. Someone like.........Hagrid for instance he does act kind of unusual at times. Like in COS when Harry found him Knockturn Alley and asked what he was doing there, hagrid took some time to answer. It was like he was trying to find an excuse, by the way does anyone remeber Hagrid carrying the Flesh eating slug repelent?
And in HBP when Hagrid went to the giants, how do we know his story was a whole lie. We can only depend on Hagrid word, It was a bit weird that Madam maxime was never seen in the rest of the book.

So do you think there is someone pretending to be on the good side, and is really on the bad side?

That's a very big assumption that you're making there - that we really know "what Snape really is". I am still firmly of the "Snape is (relatively) good side" and believe that he killed DD on DD's orders...

As for the question of is there someone else working for LV - there could be, but I just cannot see it being Hagrid - he is too "simple" - and I mean that in the sense of uncomplicated not stupid - to do something like this. He cannot keep secrets, as we have seen throughout the books, so I doubt he would be able to avoid letting anything incriminating slip without someone (DD?) spotting it - don't forget DD trusts Hagrid as much if not more than Snape, and I am convinced he will be proven right about Snape in the end...

No not neccesarily Hagrid but can anyone think of anyone on the good side, but is really on the bad side.

Funny enough, I've always thought Hagrid would've been the perfect spy cause he's the last person anyone would suspect. But as for the possibility of that actually being the case, I see no way for him to actually be a spy. There is too much between him and DD for that to come true. Now, for your question, I've pondered it from time to time, but can never come up with anyone really good. Dung, maybe. But that's about it.

JK Rowling has made alot of twist and turns. It could be the least suspecting person that nobody could suspect. For instance all of the people Harry loved start dying. 1) James Potter 2) Lily Potter 3) Albus Dumbledore 4) Sirius Black

I hate to say it but i think that Hagrid will turn out someone Harry will hate at the end of the series (this seems a bit far fetched).

Hagrid may be the least likely suspect, but as I've already said can you really imagine him not slipping up and saying something to give himself away? He is the WORST at keeping anything secret, so is unlikely to have kept something like this quiet for so long. And also, JKR is not sadistic - if all the theories were right, Harry is going to be alone from everyone he cares for (Ron, Hermione, Ginny all predicted to die) or betrayed by them (Hagrid in this case), and then dead himself. I really don't think that she is that cruel to Harry or to us the readers!!

Dumbledore kept on insisting that he trusts Snape with his life, and he found out that that he was wrong. So why cant the same happen with Hagrid? Dumbledore trusts hagrid with his life as he has quoted in PS/SS, so why can he be wrong and find out that Hagrid is evil? and in PS/SS Hagrid was just letting the secrets slip throguh his fingers and then he said something like: i should not of said that, where you going?".
Not profesional at all.

That makes sense. And I think that Hagrids smarter than he seems. He could just be pretending to be bad at keeping secrets. And even if he's not very smart, I don't think that really matters. Wormtail isn't that smart, and he's a deatheater. And he betrayed his friends, without them knowing until after the fact. So I think that there is a good chance that Hargid could be evil.

I would buy Ginny being evil before Hagrid. All through the books, we see Hagrid break down and cry for various reasons. He has a heart as big as his body. Hagrid is pure good, there is no other way to look at him, he also is a rather simple being. He didn't like Tom Riddle as a boy, and would doubt you would ever see Hagrid following him as an adult

Deatheaters follow Voldemort for power, Hagrid does not crave power in any way.

Ginny? She can be a bit odd sometimes. What do you mean, could you explain? Also the part about Hagrid make me think he is less evil.

In no way shape or form, do I feel that Ginny is evil.

Hagrid is just too kind of a soul to be evil. He is a big teddy bear. Look how he acts when he gets drunk, he doesn't change one bit. If he was a death eater would Draco be so quick to try to shove him out of Hogwarts. He was in Gryfindor as well... only Wormtail went over to the dark side.

Hagrid was there to get Harry and carry him over to Dumbledore after Lily and James died. It was quite obvious that he didnt support Voldemort because otherwise he would have just chucked Harry into the sea... as he had thought Sirius might have if he didnt come to pick him up to deliver to Dumbledore.

Voldemort was talking about the Deatheaters in the graveyard, he mentioned only one at Hogwarts his most loyal, who was Barty Crouch Jr.

If Hagrid is a death eater I would seriously call FOUL.

Besides Harry and the Weasley family, we know the most about Hagrid and his background out of any character in the book.

He might have a monster fixation, but he is not evil...

O.K then i have found something out that shocked me last night.
Firslty we all know Sirius Black escaped Azkaban because he was innocent and the dementors did not affect him.

We in COS when Hagrid was taken to Azkaban he said it was the worst plce he had been. But if hagrid was innocent then the Dementors would not have affeted him.

Page 163, POA, Firebolt (chapter):

Right at the bottom in the book i read this:



Let me stop for a bit,if Hagrid was innocent the dementors would not have affected him.
Now read this bit.


So... How do we know Hagrid was not in Knockturn Alley getting Riddles diary? We still don't really know what he was doing in there?

True. We still don't know for sure what he was doing there other than what he told us about the Flesh Eating Slug Repellant. But, Dementors affect everybody, not only those that are evil. They affected Dudley, they affected Neville, they affected Ginny, Ron, Hermione, Harry, Lupin..... the list goes on.

As for Sirius, it wasn't that they didn't affect him, it was the knowledge of him being innocent that kept him going.

But it kind of shocked me that they affected Hagrid, Hagrid was supposed to be innocent. Evem in a chapter in COS when Ron said to Harry you saw Hagrid in Knockturn Alley. Harry replied saying he was looking for flesh eating slug repellent. And then afterwards the trio went silent looking at each other without saying anything. Even in the movie, Harry had a puzzled face.

I will try and find the chapter.

Hagrid's presence in Knockturn Alley is easily explainable he does deal with all sorts of creatures, and there might be some that he needs to get things for. I can pretty much guarantee he didnt find the skrewts legally. Just because someone goes down a dark street wont mean they are evil.

Sirius is a very intelligent and strong willed person, Hagrid is not. Sirius "clung" to the fact he was innocent. Hagrid was so overcome with everything that was happening that his being sent there was just too much for him.

Just because you are not guilty wont mean they wont effect you. Harry was greatly effected by them. He was even powerless until rescued by himself in book 3.

OT, I thought this was Snape.

I thought a few years back that Hagrid was evil, but changed my mind when it's been such a long time. Anyway, now that this idea is coming back to me it must be fate! My theory was that Hagrid was getting an illegal thing wand or something magical for his umbrella, so it would work. If Hagrid was getting the diary then we would have to look at the times Hagrid and Lucius were together.

In the book (COS) Hagrid and Lucuis were in Diagon Alley, together. We do not see one with out the other in the same area, not side by side.

It was Crouch Jr. He didn't yet know if Snape was still on his side at that point or not.



I wouldn't say that they were together. I would say it was more that they were in the same area at the same time or even that they were in the same vicinity, but not together.

In the graveyard (I believe) that Snape is the one who is too ashamed to return and would be punished.

and with Hagrid. The dementors bring back horrible memmories and they effect everyone even muggles, not just evil people or it wouldn't have effected Harry in PofA.
And I believe that is was Dumbledore that fixed Hagrids wand, because Dumbledore always believed him innocient and unfair for him to be punished for something he didnt do.
I can't see Hagrid being evil he just doesn't have it in him to be evil. He is always the loveable, careing, and worry firgure-he reminds me of a mom.