Arsi
Nov 10 2006, 02:03 PM
Was going through this book again, and for some reason it hit me... Why did Avada Kadavra when it rebounded back on Voldemort, did it make his body vanish. The killing curse as demonstrated all the other times in the books just causes a flash of green light and kills.
I am wondering if there is something significant that his body was never found. It might have to do with the theory that Harry's scar is actually a Horcrux.
We know that the body does not vanish when a horcrux is created. But Voldemort not leaving a trace behind leaves me kind of baffled.
It might have been just to keep the mystery of the story going for Harry's first 11 years of life... is he truly dead or is he around in some form.
Zola231
Nov 10 2006, 02:57 PM
Hmm good point Arsi, i think that when Voldemort soul was split in to seven, he could not really die. So when you have more than 1 soul only you body is removed when it an avada kerdava curse is hit at it.
I'll post more later as i have a head ache at the present time.
Hermione@13
Nov 10 2006, 05:14 PM
Well, bodies don't usually leave a trace of their body when the Avada Kedrava hits them and kills, right? For example, Lily and Jamees, there was no trace of their bodies, right, so if this is what your talking about then I hope I helped, but if I missed te point...sorry!
Arsi
Nov 10 2006, 06:26 PM
Dumbledore's body was at the bottom of the tower. There was also a body from the spider killed by imposter Moody.
Voldemort's family was left behind without a trace on them, and who has ever heard of people just dying of fright.
Barty Crouch killed his father, then transfigured him into a bone, and buried him in Hagrid's upturned yard.
My Pensieve
Nov 10 2006, 08:08 PM
QUOTE(Hermione@11 @ Nov 10 2006, 06:14 PM) [snapback]117415[/snapback]
Well, bodies don't usually leave a trace of their body when the Avada Kedrava hits them and kills, right? For example, Lily and Jamees, there was no trace of their bodies, right, so if this is what your talking about then I hope I helped, but if I missed te point...sorry!

I don't quite understand what you are saying. If you are saying the Avada causes the bodies to just incinerate that's not correct. The bodies don't disappear when they are hit by the Avada. They drop to the ground. I don't recall that James and Lilies bodies disappeared. I don't even recall if there was anything said about what happened to their bodies. If anyone has a passage from the books on what happened to the bodies please post it. It's been a long time since I've read about them.
But back to your comment. I don't believe the Avada causes the bodies to disappear. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding where you are coming from.
1HPgirl
Nov 10 2006, 10:35 PM
QUOTE(Hermione@11 @ Nov 10 2006, 06:14 PM) [snapback]117415[/snapback]
Well, bodies don't usually leave a trace of their body when the Avada Kedrava hits them and kills, right? For example, Lily and Jamees, there was no trace of their bodies, right, so if this is what your talking about then I hope I helped, but if I missed te point...sorry!

hmmm, plus they have graves so Lily and James were probably burried. Remember in HBP Harry says he's going to visit his parents graves.
Zola231
Nov 11 2006, 10:03 AM
I feel as though when somebody has a half like, they only have a head and a very transparent body. Like a half life, i dont know what it is like.
Archina
Nov 20 2006, 08:24 AM
Hmmm... yeah it's weird that his body just vanished.
Could it be a reflection of how unhuman he was/is? After all he'd split his soul so many times and placed it in so many places that he barely resided in that body and he must have been pretty weakened. Could it be that this final assault was just a bit to much and caused his entire body to vanish? I doubt that though because the injury he'd done to himself was more to his soul than to his body.
Maybe he placed a spell on his body to apparate it to some safe place, knowing that he would need it again (as he had the horcruces) in case of such a scenario. But this too doesn't quite fit because when we see him at his rebirth later on it's a new body he seems to be growing up into not some old body.
I really don't know!
Hermione@13
Nov 20 2006, 09:13 PM
Okay...I really need to get more sleep.

I felt really tired. Well...anyway...you all are right and I was too dumb to step back and look at the general idea. Anyway, it's possible that his body is still there.
the_prisoner_of_azkaban
Nov 26 2006, 04:46 AM
This has really baffled me. We know that Avada Kedavra leaves a body intact, other then the obvious fact that they are dead (Cedric Diggory etc). Maybe Lilly's spell somehow changed the affect of the curse so that no body would remain. I mean whilst it was the Avada Kedavra curse that hit Voldemort it wasn't exactly a "pure" curse. Lilly tampered with it. So maybe that modified its affect not only on Harry but also on Voldemort.
I mean the curse was modified enough that it left a scar on Harry. Why a scar? A normal Avada Kedavra curse wouldn't have left the scar infact a huge deal is made of the fact that Avada Kedavra leaves NO mark.
There is alot of crucial information about that night at Godrics Hollow, that we are yet to find out.
Hermione@13
Nov 26 2006, 07:24 PM
Yeah, that's true! Maybe the whole "love" thing made the rebounded spell strong enough, so that the body hit with it gets destroyed.
the_prisoner_of_azkaban
Dec 5 2006, 06:29 AM
One thing though, Im almost certain his body WAS destroyed. Everyone always said it in the books. Unless someone moved it, before dumbledore or any of them had a chance to see it. But Voldy would have then gotten it back :S
harrypotteraddict{liza}
Jan 4 2007, 04:41 PM
in the book it doesnt say V's body vanished he was merely too weak to live because the avada curse wasnt entirely on him it was bounced off harry which means it lost some power and left a mark (harry's scar) therefor when it hit V he ddnt die but he ddnt live either.thats why he was too weak he ddnt have a body infact he had to shre one with proffesor quirrel. and then as we found out in HARRY POTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE V recovered his body by a complex form of magic using a bone form his father's grave and the flesh of wormtail and hary's blood. from here i found out sth that voldermort actually feared harry potter or atleast he feared that harry would ruin his reputation of being the most powerful wizard. i mena wiht exception to dumbeldore
the_prisoner_of_azkaban
Jan 5 2007, 04:03 AM
QUOTE
in the book it doesnt say V's body vanished he was merely too weak to live because the avada curse wasnt entirely on him it was bounced off harry which means it lost some power and left a mark (harry's scar) therefor when it hit V he ddnt die but he ddnt live either.thats why he was too weak he ddnt have a body infact he had to shre one with proffesor quirrel.
I'm confused. At first you say you believe Voldy's body didn't vanish, but then you say he got his body back. I'm curious as to where you believe his body was for the 13 years before he got it back.
Hermione@13
Jan 5 2007, 04:10 PM
I don't think he got his body
back, but he "recreated" it by Dark Magic.

When V died his body vanished from the force of the love shield that Lily put on Harry. Now I believe "remaking' your body is as bad as spliting your soul. Ghosts could probably become human again, but I believe it's against Wizard law.
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