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Dijares
Here you can discuss the 1st movie in the Inheritance trilogy - Eragon.

I really feel sorry for Chris Paolini. The screenwriters, the directors, the producers - the entire crew (though not the actors, nor the FX dept) did a total injustice to his book and series. The movie did not follow the book whatsoever. Very sad, indeed.
Mathias_thechosenone2010
Thank You Dij! I was waiting for someone to post this, I saw it the day after it was realeased in the U.S., and I almost walked out of the show! It was a total disappointment, they added things that didn't need to be added, and they cut out KEY scenes, that never should have been cut, like the twins? and Murtaugh getting captured at the end, or running off like he does in the book, I was appalled by the story, and hope whoever does the next one, gives Chris atleast a bit of a say in what goes on, Oh and the guy that played Eragon seemed too old for the part! dragon.gif gandalf.gif
murtagh_sbk
murtagh gets caught at the beggining of eldest not the end of eragon though
murtagh_sbk
but they skipped tierm which theyre going to have to show in the next book anyway right and the moved angela from tierm
Mathias_thechosenone2010
O yeah that's right, so he did, yeah, I also, thought angela should have had a greater part, she is one of the major characters, and in my opinion, I thought Ajihad was too dark for the role, when they said he was darker in the book, I thought Chris meant like...arabic, or like just tan, like umm....O! like the men of the east and the south, in the LOTR (Lord of the Rings) their dark, but not too dark, I don't know...haha dragon.gif gandalf.gif
cruticus
For me as a movie, it was terrible. I have never read the books and I wont, but the movie seemed to me that there were set pieces from LOTR...like, what!!??
riddlemethis326
I liked the actors... especially Garret Hedlund who played Murtagh... but the script was TERRILBE! They rushed the whole thing so much.

#1. Saphira grew up in like three seconds and through the whole movie you never got the feel of hers and Eragon's relationship so it seemed unreal

#2. They skipped two key cities: Teirm with Jeod (sp?) and finding the records of the Seith-something oil that leads them to Dras Leona (the best citiy where I happen to think Morzan met Selena... *cough*) and their encounter with the Ra'zac. What was with hanging them on a tree? I mean...really. And the slave auctions when Eragon and Saphira really decide to join with the Varden.

#3. The very best character with the most depth was horribly represented. Murtagh... he had maybe ten lines in the whole movie... he deserved well over 1000! (just kidding, just kidding... don't mind the hyperbole) It showed none of his real character. What was with him wanting to show Eragon to the Varden... and how did he know anyway? Plus he didn't tell ANY of his mother's and father's story. That made me VERY upset, because that is a key part especially for the next movie, if they make one which I kinda hope they don't unless they get a new director or screenwriter or something (and don't mind the run on sentances here.) He was too happy all the time. I like him being happy and joking around, but he's happy TOO much and you never see his dark side which he shows a lot in the book. The only dark part of him was when he gets all cry-cry sad at the Varden and he shows everybody his scar. He SHOWS it... that is NOT like him at all...

I've said my say... though I did like the animation of Saphira and I thought Brom was all right... except for how he died.
Dijares
QUOTE(riddlemethis326 @ Dec 27 2006, 11:20 PM) [snapback]119881[/snapback]
I liked the actors... especially Garret Hedlund who played Murtagh... but the script was TERRILBE! They rushed the whole thing so much.

#1. Saphira grew up in like three seconds and through the whole movie you never got the feel of hers and Eragon's relationship so it seemed unreal

#2. They skipped two key cities: Teirm with Jeod (sp?) and finding the records of the Seith-something oil that leads them to Dras Leona (the best citiy where I happen to think Morzan met Selena... *cough*) and their encounter with the Ra'zac. What was with hanging them on a tree? I mean...really. And the slave auctions when Eragon and Saphira really decide to join with the Varden.

#3. The very best character with the most depth was horribly represented. Murtagh... he had maybe ten lines in the whole movie... he deserved well over 1000! (just kidding, just kidding... don't mind the hyperbole) It showed none of his real character. What was with him wanting to show Eragon to the Varden... and how did he know anyway? Plus he didn't tell ANY of his mother's and father's story. That made me VERY upset, because that is a key part especially for the next movie, if they make one which I kinda hope they don't unless they get a new director or screenwriter or something (and don't mind the run on sentances here.) He was too happy all the time. I like him being happy and joking around, but he's happy TOO much and you never see his dark side which he shows a lot in the book. The only dark part of him was when he gets all cry-cry sad at the Varden and he shows everybody his scar. He SHOWS it... that is NOT like him at all...

I've said my say... though I did like the animation of Saphira and I thought Brom was all right... except for how he died.


I think there is going to be a lot of making up to do if they make a 2nd movie. I mean, where are the twins? They play a key role (although you don't see them a lot - they have a lot to do with what happens).

Regarding how he died, I mean, no where does the movie show how Brom got there, and it's not even how it happened in the book. Such HUGE holes!
Mathias_thechosenone2010
That death wanted to make me cry, because the LACK of relevance, in accordance, to the book?!
It was a total wasted scene, in which, in the book, is one of most wonderful scenes.

I don't agree that, Murtaugh was great in the movie, despite what you said about the dark, and too much good side, RMT. the Murtaugh in the movie, lacked definiton, but manily, he wasn't anything like the murtaugh in the book, he wasn't like I imagined him, to be like, I mean. Also, the Eragon, in the movie, was a mixed actor, wasn't good at times, but, was great at other times. Plus he should have dark hair!

Oh and what if, it wasn't Garrow that had the royal/noble blood, what if it was his wife, we so rarely, hear about, hmm?

It's just like in this one series Charlie Bone, Charlie's Father's, blood, was magical but, his mother, who is rarely, talked about, or in my opinion, not a very recognized character, also, had magical blood, which she seems like the "Muggle," of series (just like Roran's mother very little known about, but, still isn't fully out of the question?)

That's just what I come to, when I think about possibilities... gandalf.gif dragon.gif huh.gif
riddlemethis326
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I don't agree that, Murtaugh was great in the movie, despite what you said about the dark, and too much good side, RMT. the Murtaugh in the movie, lacked definiton, but manily, he wasn't anything like the murtaugh in the book, he wasn't like I imagined him, to be like.


What I meant was that the actor had the potential to be great and would have been if the script hadn't have been so bad. I really disliked the way they portrayed him in the movie because he did lack everything I thought of as Murtagh. I was saying that I really thought they could have done a better job on him. They spent absolutly no time on him at all. In the movie, you hardly even know who he is. In fact, the movie doesn't show him at all.
Dijares
QUOTE(riddlemethis326 @ Dec 28 2006, 11:59 AM) [snapback]119930[/snapback]
What I meant was that the actor had the potential to be great and would have been if the script hadn't have been so bad. I really disliked the way they portrayed him in the movie because he did lack everything I thought of as Murtagh. I was saying that I really thought they could have done a better job on him. They spent absolutly no time on him at all. In the movie, you hardly even know who he is. In fact, the movie doesn't show him at all.

I have to agree. They really didn't show enough on the main characters. And Murtagh is definitely a main character. They spent too much time showing Arya in dreams, when he didn't really dream about her quite so much. And the flying scenes - the book wasn't like that at all.

It just seems to me that the screenwriters/director/producers took the parts that they thought would be cool and used those and beefed them up some... dry.gif
riddlemethis326
It was more a movie to show off special affects than the story line. Poor Paolini... they used his books as an excuse to make a "cool" movie. They did no justice! I demand a redo!!!!!!
Mathias_thechosenone2010
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What I meant was that the actor had the potential to be great and would have been if the script hadn't have been so bad. I really disliked the way they portrayed him in the movie because he did lack everything I thought of as Murtagh. I was saying that I really thought they could have done a better job on him. They spent absolutly no time on him at all. In the movie, you hardly even know who he is. In fact, the movie doesn't show him at all


My mistake, I must of understood you? Yeah, I'd have to agree with that though.

And Indeed, perhaps, a redo is in order! dragon.gif gandalf.gif
riddlemethis326
Lol... I was kind of joking. It would be nice, but they'll never do it...
murtagh_sbk
Paolinin isnt going to let them make another movie he said he was going to decide if to make an Eldest movie by the quality of Eragon.
one_too_many_broken_hearts
but if you go on the movie website they have the twins and katrina cast and you dont see them in the first movie they have made quite a lot of money from eragon odds are they will make eldest and the end of it becons for a second
chapovalverde
Hi everyone!

It's been a long while since I posted something in the boards, so I hope that my fragile english hadn't gone worse than it was recently dry.gif

I read the books for the first time last month, because I've never been really attracted by them; but I thought it would be much better to read them before watching the film, and I had the intention of watching it.

First, I was gladly surprised by the story, with resulted much more mature than I expected and, although the characters personality and interior description don't reach the level of Harry Potter's ones, they are all very cool and appealing to the reader. And after a well balanced story, with two books long enough to explain not only the trip Eragon has to make in the first book and his later training in the second, but also how he feels about girls, his friend Saphira and all his tutors (with the added point of some politics and court intrigues with the Vardens and in Surda); what we found in the film?

Well, first of all I'd like to say that I was disappointed with the film, not because the film itself was so bad, but the thing was that it didn't made any justice to the book. What I didn't understand was why it was so short. Cinema days have changed, and now a two-hour film is the most common thing in the world. So why they didn't add 30 more minutes in which they could have shown more of Eragon's training with Brom (I was waiting for the part where they protect their swords to harm each other), what magic really involves, or introducing Murtagh in the way he deserved for his importance in the books. For those of us who have read both books we know how relevant he is, how Eragon begins to trust him and how he feels in the end when they meet again. From the film you could only tell that Eragon is a boy that trusts anyone that helps him (with a permanent smile on his face...) and inmediatly becomes his friend.

I think that anyone made a comment about this but, (and sorry fo the manners), WHERE THE heck WERE THE DWARVES????
I mean, all the twins thing was cut and although it's very important if they make some turn in the future they can fix it someway. But I couldn't believe they didn't even mentioned the dwarfs, when the Vardens are guests of their milenary city of Tronjheim!!! And what happens with Orik in Eldest? Honestly, that was a big, big mistake. And this crystal thing Saphira breaks could have been simply impressive in the big screen.

All in all, they've ruined a very good story by making things the easy way. Apart from the good job done with Saphira, I think that Durza was the only that was really close to what I expected from the book.
Even his smoke dragon was cool.
Dijares
Hey chapovalverde!

Long time, no see! I must say that you explained yourself very well and said many of the things that all of us felt. The dwarves were in the film - they had the dwarves take Murtagh away in Farthen Dur in the Beor mountains. I was very dissapointed that they didn't show Erya as an actual Elf. Especially as how Eragon's looks change in the 2nd book.

I honestly think that they (the producers/director) were trying to stay away from something that looked like LOTR at all costs - even to the actual story. The background and many the characters are very like LOTR, but the story itself is not. Very sad, indeed.
murtagh_sbk
All in all a bad movie if youve read the book good movie if you havent
Mathias_thechosenone2010
I found it totally saddening, that, I couldn't tell the dwarves, from the actual men? Did anyone else have that problem?

And what was with the guy, that is like, Ajihad's helper? Does he not scream "Moses/Noah from Noahs Ark?"

Yah, I also noticed, the Arya not looking like an elf, thing considering, it's so important, in the second book, with Eragon, tranforming....She didnt even have pointed ears? She also smiles too much, the elvian race is a stern race, they rarely smile, or laugh, they mostly just look like, their thinking about somethign all the time, and can't really figure out the answer, like a deep thought/confused pondering?

One of the things that really got me going though, was the urgals didnt have horns?! they didnt remotely look like monster, though I think it's like you said Dij, they were probably afraid of making the characters, look LOTRish, trying to over compincate, for the role they had in jacking LOTR scenery, and sets, haha laugh.gif dragon.gif gandalf.gif
murtagh_sbk
Arya also had black hair in the book they messed up the fight between Durza and Eragon they barely even showed him getting the scar on his back and in Eldest the elves actually were smiling alout (Because they were like always singing)
one_too_many_broken_hearts
and one big thing they didnt do Arya was meant to be unconcious only talking to him through dreams and his visons were meant to be of her lokked up in the cell. i thought that was one big no no
the razac looked terrible they were in my opinon big hooded characters with beaks (correct me if i am wrong)
it was reall badly put together and i cant believe how quickly they made saphira grow it ruined a hap of the connection and what about the legs skinned to the bone i didn't see tat either dry.gif
murtagh_sbk
QUOTE(one_too_many_broken_hearts @ Dec 30 2006, 04:42 PM) [snapback]120278[/snapback]
and one big thing they didnt do Arya was meant to be unconcious only talking to him through dreams and his visons were meant to be of her lokked up in the cell. i thought that was one big no no
the razac looked terrible they were in my opinon big hooded characters with beaks (correct me if i am wrong)
it was reall badly put together and i cant believe how quickly they made saphira grow it ruined a hap of the connection and what about the legs skinned to the bone i didn't see tat either dry.gif

True but they proobly didnt really want to injure Edward Speelers
Dijares
QUOTE(murtagh_sbk @ Dec 30 2006, 06:30 PM) [snapback]120283[/snapback]
True but they proobly didnt really want to injure Edward Speelers

They would have just used make up...There was so much they didn't do. Very sad...
Mathias_thechosenone2010
Yeah, and if I remember right, Arya, wasn't with Eragon, as much as she was in the movie, she was always riding on Saphira, Oh and, did you notice, how arya, told Eragon, she was a princess? If I remember right that, isn't revealed until, the second book, and she's not the one that tells him, I can't remember who does, because, don't they get into a big fight over it or something, Eragon's like, "You never told me you were a princess!?" and then, yah, they go at eachothers throats about it.... I don't know, maybe I'm imagining things? dragon.gif gandalf.gif laugh.gif huh.gif
murtagh_sbk
Actually Arya did ride on Saphira while she was out cold in the book to.
one_too_many_broken_hearts
the thing with the movies they are never as good as te books i was really ragther dissapointed with the movie, there were so many important things that seeme to have been chucked and now i think there are two many loose ends in the movie
Mathias_thechosenone2010
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Actually Arya did ride on Saphira while she was out cold in the book to.


That's what I'm saying, In the movie, Arya was alot more attached to Eragon, then in the book..... dragon.gif gandalf.gif
one_too_many_broken_hearts
yeah, and i think her being distant from him built MORE connection in the book made it more intricate
riddlemethis326
I agree. But the main thing that bugged me about the movie was the lack of connecting that Eragon and Saphira had. Sure they could talk to each other, but they didn't share emotions and I know it's hard to do that in a movie, but the absense of their connection was dismal. In general, they rushed it so much. It was only about an hour and a half when it could have easily been twice as long. It could have been way better...
Mathias_thechosenone2010
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I agree. But the main thing that bugged me about the movie was the lack of connecting that Eragon and Saphira had. Sure they could talk to each other, but they didn't share emotions and I know it's hard to do that in a movie, but the absense of their connection was dismal. In general, they rushed it so much. It was only about an hour and a half when it could have easily been twice as long. It could have been way better...


Totally, they almost make it seem like Eragon, and Saphira, are like not in anyway connected, while in the book, they make it almost seem their the same person, with the same thoughts, and feelings... dragon.gif gandalf.gif
one_too_many_broken_hearts
exactly, i hope they dont ruin eldest :|
Mathias_thechosenone2010
I want to say, with how Eragon the movie turned out, they couldn't get any worse, meaning eldest is sure to be better, but, then again, sequals are sometimes worse then originals, and if they use the same people that they used to make Eragon, then the movie's sure to be a bust, so I'm just going to pretend, that I never said this, so not to jinx the next film, and be done with it.... dragon.gif gandalf.gif
xc coach
I finally read the book Eragon in December. I got to see the movie today. I thought both were excellent. The book was a great story and I look forward to reading the rest of the series. The movie took the main story lines and did a nice job making a reasonable length experience out of them. Sure, they changed some facts and condensed a lot. They did that to Lord of the Rings, too (thank goodness). I was glad Eragon wasn't more complicated and longer -- because I really, really had to go to the bathroom by the time it was over.

At any rate, I thought the movie was much better than the critics claimed. But, then, I went with the expectation that it would be different from the book. Just like the Harry Potter movies are different from the books! But the HP movies are still a good time.

smile.gif

PS: Dijares, thanks for making this whole Inheritance thing-y. It lets us vent about the series without mucking up the HP boards!
riddlemethis326
I don't even think they did a good job of condensing it. The main story lines were all messed up and the deepest values of the characters were completely comprimised. And what was with Murtagh wanted to go to the Varden? It didn't make sense, just like the rest of the movie. Not just in comparision to the book, it was a bad movie. Although the music was pretty darn good.
one_too_many_broken_hearts
I'm with you there. they've already cast for Eldest. and i think they ae using the same director *groan*
riddlemethis326
*Sigh* If they mess up the scene with Murtagh at the end... I'm going to sue or do something very-not-nice.
one_too_many_broken_hearts
so so true
Dijares
QUOTE(xc coach @ Jan 12 2007, 05:59 PM) [snapback]121241[/snapback]
I finally read the book Eragon in December. I got to see the movie today. I thought both were excellent. The book was a great story and I look forward to reading the rest of the series. The movie took the main story lines and did a nice job making a reasonable length experience out of them. Sure, they changed some facts and condensed a lot. They did that to Lord of the Rings, too (thank goodness). I was glad Eragon wasn't more complicated and longer -- because I really, really had to go to the bathroom by the time it was over.

At any rate, I thought the movie was much better than the critics claimed. But, then, I went with the expectation that it would be different from the book. Just like the Harry Potter movies are different from the books! But the HP movies are still a good time.

smile.gif

PS: Dijares, thanks for making this whole Inheritance thing-y. It lets us vent about the series without mucking up the HP boards!

HI xc,

Sorry so long in replying...

Just wait until you read the 2nd book - I think this is why so many of us are upset, because things that happen in the 2nd book and things that they took out of the movie will have a huge impact.

You're welcome on making this. smile.gif Glad you like it!
crmhpfan
I recently finished reading Eragon, and I enjoyed it very much. I was however, very upset with the movie. It lacked so much from the story, and I think the acting was appalling. The only character I think was good was the Shade/Durza. And isn't Eragon meant to be 15/16, not about 25? Because he looked a lot older in the film.
Snape Spirit
In the movie, Eragon looked like a "rich" kid instead of a poor farm boy. They also messed up Brom's death...
crmhpfan
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They also messed up Brom's death...
More like they messed up the whole movie! dry.gif
loving life
QUOTE(crmhpfan @ Aug 12 2007, 09:35 PM) [snapback]134798[/snapback]
More like they messed up the whole movie! dry.gif

lol. so you were dissapointed?
Nina79
I thought the movie was great. smile.gif Even though that the book is still better... smile.gif
crmhpfan
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lol. so you were dissapointed?
Ha ha yeah, don't get me started lol!

First of all, Eragon looked like a 20 something year old man, not a 16 year old kid

What was with Arya? The acting, the costume, the whole thing wasn't right?

And Brom! He was barely in the movie, and when he gets killed off you don't even notice that he's gone.

The main thing I didn't like was how much the movie strayed from the book; at least the HP movies are related HP books!

So, all in all, not one of my better movies.
loving life
haha yer...but ed speleers ( eragon) is actually like 19 in real life..so yer..he looked old..still good though.
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