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tealinkea
i heard book 7 has two more deths i hope its not ron and hermione

i know its not harry harry will not die! smile.gif
Hermione@13
I don't think anyone can know who's going to die and who's not unless you're Jo. I think that the two deaths are Neville and V.
cruticus
i'm having a gut feeling that one of the weasley's will die, possibly Percy or Ron and also Neville has a chance of dying too.
Perseus_Evans
I wish that I could say it wasn't true but...

Based on all the foreshadowing and JKR's commentary... it's nearly certain to me that either Ron, Ginny or Hermione will die. (Now I was "certain" that Dumbledore was still alive, so take it with a grain of salt :) )

The fact that every death has been someone progressively closer to Harry says we're probably going to get even closer.

Cedric = Friend but Harry didn't really know him
Sirius = Godfather that Harry didn't have time to really get to know
Dumbledore = Harry's mentor and the leader who has earned his unwavering loyalty
???? = Someone Harry can't live without.

I really believe it's going to be Ron though. The 2nd task in GoF and Mrs Weasley's boggart are major bits of foreshadowing. The "blood-traitor" storyline has been more and more prevalent but we haven't had any pureblood wizards killed yet. The Weasleys are the obvious targets...

I just hope that if I'm right, we get to see some major power from Ginny and Hermione in avenging his death...
tealinkea
I really think Malfoy and V. are the two.

I still belive Sirius is alive, but its clear DD's dead. I also think Bellatrix and Sirius have some sort of secret plan to help Harry defeat V. and Sirius "dying" was all part of it.
Hermione@13
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I really believe it's going to be Ron though.


Yay, someone thought of the same thing as me! biggrin.gif I believe the two people Jo didn't mean to die, but are going to is Neville and V, but she didn't say there were only two deaths!
missgranger123
I'm almost sure that Jo is going to kill off someone Harry loves and someone Harry loathes (whether this be Voldemort or not, I don't know). Both people are also going to be extremely important to the plot, and to Harry's life, though. Who either of these people are, I don't know, but knowing JK Rowling, I'm sure what ever happens will be totally unexpected.
Hermione@13
Well, Harry doesn't exactly love Neville, but they get along and V and Harry definitely loath each other. I still think it's going to end with Neville sacrificing himself for Harry. crying.gif After that Harry may find out that Ron died in a battle. I believe that Ron doesn't get the credit he deserves and in the 7th book I hope he does! I have a feeling it's Ron because Harry seems to always lose everybody close to him and I don't think the ending would be as memorable if we all remember Neville dying at the end.
RSchlaf
Has anyone thought of someone that is even closer to harry that has not been said? How about Dudley, Petunia or Vernon. V wants to kill people that are close to harry, who closer than family? And theres been the problem with muggles being killed and the ministry having to cover it up. With the new Prime Minister and with the new (whats his name? the lion guy). They are going to play some role in the book and what better way than to start the book out with one of those three, or all of them dying and them having to cover it up. It would also be really interesting to see what harry does about it.
tealinkea
hey hermione11 you got roger rabbit in your sig so you get the throne of petria biggrin.gif
Nossist
Ok, so there are heaps of possibilities and im not sure if this topic has been opened before, if it has please close it.
Well there will be 2 main character dieing, but do you think that there might be other people who arent as involved in the story lines who might die?
Also i was thinking that voldemort and harry die.
but im not asking for rumours about who die im asking how you think they'll die.
if voldemort is indeed killed by harry how will harry do it? i dont think harry will be able to use avada kedavra i was just reading through HP and the GOF and the imposter moody says this about avada kedavra
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avada kedavra's a curse that needs a powerful bit of magic behind it - you could all get your wands out now and point them at me and say the words, and I doubt i'd get so much as a nose bleed.

would harry be able to kill LV or will he use another means? i was thinking that he might push him down the veil of darkness, or push both himself and LV down the viel of darkness thus the two main characters that die.
would harry be able to kill voldemort? i thought he would at first because voldemort killed his father and grandparents at harrys age but LV isnt like harry he was very different.
but when harry uses the crucio curse on bellatrix it doesnt work on her properly would the avada kedavra work on LV properly?
How do you think LV or harry will die? or if you dont think either of them will die how will whoever gets killed die?
also with the whole harry ending his own life to push LV out of the veil theory that doesnt really count as harry killing voldemort does it?
does JKR say that 2 characters will be murdered? or that 2 character will die? if you think about the possibilities there are many differences.
for example if harry kills LV, only one will be killed, and if harry and LV both die with the veil idea then it will mean one character is killed and one character dies.
what do you think on these theories?
StacieLynn
Wow, this is a tough one. I really like your theory about the veil. I honestly think Harry would die himself if it meant killing LV. Since Harry isn't going back to hogwarts and no longer has Dumbledore to protect/advise him, he might just sacrifice himself. I think that since Ron and Hermione are so close and protective of Harry, they might just sacrifice themselves for him too.
Hermione@13
I think that the person that was going to die, but is now going to live is Harry. party009.gif I think the two main characters that are going to die are Neville and V. I think it went like this: Jo was going to kill V and Harry because they fire spells at the same time or something of the sort, but what happened was she thought the better ending would be if Neville sacrificed himself for Harry.
baty4potter
QUOTE(StacieLynn @ Jan 2 2007, 12:12 PM) [snapback]120454[/snapback]
Wow, this is a tough one. I really like your theory about the veil. I honestly think Harry would die himself if it meant killing LV. Since Harry isn't going back to hogwarts and no longer has Dumbledore to protect/advise him, he might just sacrifice himself. I think that since Ron and Hermione are so close and protective of Harry, they might just sacrifice themselves for him too.

Well I'm going to answer yours since the other was too long.

I'll start with the last statement.

No I do *not* think Hermione and Ron are going to sacrifice themselves for Harry. They could die in battle, but just because Harry might die, trying to deal with Voldemort, I don't see any dramatics as such. But then again I'm not the author, but it doesn't seem like her style. Though Ron was willing to sacrifice himself in SS so we'll see.

As for Harry dying? I don't think so, but it could be possible if he and Voldemort went into the veil together. I hope it isn't this way, but than again it's the authors call isn't it?

Can Harry kill Voldemort? I don't feel he is strong enough, and since he wouldn't let Lupin and Sirius kill Peter, can he kill Voldemort even if he had the chance? I don't think he would, but then again maybe Dumbledore's death will push him over the edge.

And JK said she was sparing one and killing off two. Now the two have to be someone that has been mentioned in the books because as I believe she put it, and this isn't a direct quote, but I think you get it..... You can't kill off extras can you? So I believe it'll be characters that we know, but how important they actually are still remains to be seen. JK does like to play games with us.

Hermione@13
I don't believe that Harry will die, but not because Jo felt sorry for those lame and desperate groups who just make themselves up to "save" Harry dry.gif , but because Jo herself felt it wouldn't be right.
jcognition
A cool ending would be if Snape reveals that he was always Dumbledore's man right at the end, and he duels LV just about when LV was gonna kill him. At the end, LV kills Snape and without LV realizing it, puts another of "Love" magic on Harry (as he sacrificed himself for Harry, and apparently loved Harry). Then LV tries to kill Harry but the killing curse recoils again. Of course, Snape would have had to be acting like he hated Harry all along because he had to make it seem that way so that if Harry was Ligilemenized, the truth would not be revealed.

I sincerely doubt that Harry will be able to kill Voldemort in a straight out duel. I think it was made quite clear that the great power Harry had over LV was love.
iareaj
well, yes, first: harry never tried an "avada kedavra"
second: we must remember the priori incantatem, they won't be able to use their wands properly againsteach other.
and third: i'm sure the ending will leave us all with our mouths wide open of surprise...
mollyweasley
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i'm sure the ending will leave us all with our mouths wide open of surprise...

Well said iareaj! I am counting on it! As much as I like to read what people theorize, I really hope she has thought up something I could never imagine!! clap.gif
crmhpfan
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i'm sure the ending will leave us all with our mouths wide open of surprise...


And tears streaming down our faces too, like the sixth book lol weeping.gif crying.gif weeping.gif
baty4potter
I'm going to take the sappy approach on this. I'm hoping that JK will let Harry have a happy ending to his life. Yes, people are going to die, but I'm hoping she at least allows him to keep his friends, and new love alive. This way he will be able to experience happiness, at least for a brief time, with those who have been by his side through his troubled times at Hogwarts. I know very very sappy!! tongue.gif biggrin.gif laughing.gif
crmhpfan
QUOTE(baty4potter @ Feb 9 2007, 10:27 PM) [snapback]122432[/snapback]
I'm going to take the sappy approach on this. I'm hoping that JK will let Harry have a happy ending to his life. Yes, people are going to die, but I'm hoping she at least allows him to keep his friends, and new love alive. This way he will be able to experience happiness, at least for a brief time, with those who have been by his side through his troubled times at Hogwarts. I know very very sappy!! tongue.gif biggrin.gif laughing.gif


I hope it ends like that! My dad said it would be funny if voldy kills harry and Voldys reign of terror continues for eternity! So I think I prefer the sappy ending!
Hermione@13
i don't think that Harry will die, but Ron would. weeping.gif He dies protecting Ginny and the debt of the Weasleys is broken. Hey, I should post this in the other thread.
Hanna
wait, TWO main characters? where did you get that info from?!
Hanna
i think one of the weasly parents will die..probably the dad...yes, i think he dad will die..

i think snape will die (i believe he is on the good side)

someone posted earlier that they think nevelle might jump iinfront of harry and save harry, and LV will try to kill him and it will bounce back and kill LV instead or something like that hahaha, i like that idea
cruticus
Hanna, I know you are new here, but please do not double post, just use the edit button to re-post your previous.

Thanks

Cruticus wink.gif
mothermaclean
i think there will be more then two but if i hazard a guess it would be tonks and lupin maybe a weasley something like that
You-Know-Poo
QUOTE(Perseus_Evans @ Aug 17 2006, 07:30 AM) [snapback]107693[/snapback]
I wish that I could say it wasn't true but...

Based on all the foreshadowing and JKR's commentary... it's nearly certain to me that either Ron, Ginny or Hermione will die. (Now I was "certain" that Dumbledore was still alive, so take it with a grain of salt smile.gif )

The fact that every death has been someone progressively closer to Harry says we're probably going to get even closer.

Cedric = Friend but Harry didn't really know him
Sirius = Godfather that Harry didn't have time to really get to know
Dumbledore = Harry's mentor and the leader who has earned his unwavering loyalty
???? = Someone Harry can't live without.

I really believe it's going to be Ron though. The 2nd task in GoF and Mrs Weasley's boggart are major bits of foreshadowing. The "blood-traitor" storyline has been more and more prevalent but we haven't had any pureblood wizards killed yet. The Weasleys are the obvious targets...

I just hope that if I'm right, we get to see some major power from Ginny and Hermione in avenging his death...


The other person could be Hagrid.
Here's why:

All the adult deaths, are colors, Sirius Black, Dumbledore has something to do with white, and Rubeaus Hagrid
And if you say Hagrid's name like a British person, the "red" sounds stronger

Another reason is, in an interview, JKR was asked who'd she invite to dinner. She started naming people and then stopped in asked, "Can they come if they're dead?" or something along those lines.

She had previously said that Hagrid however was her favorite character, but she didn't add in his name to the list.

A pureblood traitor (I'm looking at things simply) could be one of the Malfoys. They could act in the art of traitoring, against Voldemort. Because the good side is getting stronger. Or fifty other million reasons.

I'm pretty/kinda/not really sure if Snape is a pureblood. But something tells me he's not. I get his childhood mixed up with Voldemort's.

JKR also said that the two deaths were going to be unplanned so death's like Harry/Voldemort's are planned and don't get counted as the two deaths
WickedWitchOfTheWest
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I'm pretty/kinda/not really sure if Snape is a pureblood. But something tells me he's not. I get his childhood mixed up with Voldemort's.
Snape is the Half-Blood Prince. That should clear up your confusion. wink.gif

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JKR also said that the two deaths were going to be unplanned so death's like Harry/Voldemort's are planned and don't get counted as the two deaths


Unless she had originally planned to keep Harry alive but then decided to kill him off or vice versa with V. wink.gif
You-Know-Poo
ohmy.gif I forgot about the Half-Blood Prine part of Snape.

I still think one's going to be Hagrid
Hermione@13
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someone posted earlier that they think nevelle might jump iinfront of harry and save harry, and LV will try to kill him and it will bounce back and kill LV instead or something like that hahaha, i like that idea


Yay! That was me! LOL! I'm not really a strong believer in this theory, though.(even though it's my own)

Anyway...I don't understand why people keep thinking it's going to be Hagrid! Ron's has a lot of reasons:the Boggart, the Weasleys' death, Hermione and Ron will fight with Harry(assumed), so there's always a chance that they'll die, etc.
You-Know-Poo
QUOTE(Hermione@12 @ Jun 20 2007, 07:01 PM) [snapback]128882[/snapback]
Yay! That was me! LOL! I'm not really a strong believer in this theory, though.(even though it's my own)

Anyway...I don't understand why people keep thinking it's going to be Hagrid! Ron's has a lot of reasons:the Boggart, the Weasleys' death, Hermione and Ron will fight with Harry(assumed), so there's always a chance that they'll die, etc.


But Hagrid is the last adult figure in Harry's life
Hermione@13
Ohhh, well, he doesn't really seem like a father figure. More like a friend. I mean he doesn't go to him for advice, or stuff like that. Hagrid definitely isn't as close to Harry as Sirius was.
You-Know-Poo
QUOTE(Hermione@12 @ Jun 21 2007, 03:14 PM) [snapback]128919[/snapback]
Ohhh, well, he doesn't really seem like a father figure. More like a friend. I mean he doesn't go to him for advice, or stuff like that. Hagrid definitely isn't as close to Harry as Sirius was.


You're right he's closer

Hagrid has been Harry's friend since day one

Harry only knew Sirius for three years
Hermione@13
Yes, I know that, but Hagrid doesn't seem as close to Harry as Sirius. Yes, he has known him longer, but that doesn't make them closer.
the_prisoner_of_azkaban
Sirius was definatly more of a father-figure then Hagrid. Sirius was the one who gave him advice, Sirius was the one he always turned to. dry.gif

Here's something for Baty, but she probably heard it already. From JKR:

Someone asked her if she could invite five characters to dinner who would it be? She chose Harry, Hermione and Ron, but then hesitated before choosing her last characters, saying "See... I know who's actually dead," because she didn't know if she was allowed to invite someone who had died.

For me, that clears up that none of the trio will die.
baty4potter
QUOTE(the_prisoner_of_azkaban @ Jun 23 2007, 01:24 AM) [snapback]129043[/snapback]
Sirius was definatly more of a father-figure then Hagrid. Sirius was the one who gave him advice, Sirius was the one he always turned to. dry.gif

Here's something for Baty, but she probably heard it already. From JKR:

Someone asked her if she could invite five characters to dinner who would it be? She chose Harry, Hermione and Ron, but then hesitated before choosing her last characters, saying "See... I know who's actually dead," because she didn't know if she was allowed to invite someone who had died.

For me, that clears up that none of the trio will die.

ROFL, I never even gave that a thought. Good Catch!!!

One of the reasons I don't think Harry, Ron and Hermione won't die is because in her first interview with Rosie O'Donnell she told one little boy that none of them would die. Now that could have been taken as in the next book, but I don't think so. I do believe Ginny's in danger though, and that will NOT make me happy!!
You-Know-Poo
But if Sirius was more of a father figure, that explains why he was killed first.
I know that Sirius was more of a father figure, but my point is that Hagrid is the last father figure
the_prisoner_of_azkaban
Yes I remember that interview smile.gif

Aw poor Ginny, it's kinda looking a lil bit grim for her. But I dunno, I just don't think she will die. I think it would more likely be neville then Ginny
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